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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote alettaenmarcel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2011 at 10:08
thank you for your reaction Panos
I thought you were selling , and was wondering why.
You understand , we ( hanse owners ) need your expertise at this forum and I am glad you are keeping you 630 and staying on the forumSmile
greetings Marcel
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Windsurfer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2011 at 20:57
Panos, you still haven't answered my question about 540 and 470...could you please explain in more details...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote panos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2011 at 22:45
@windsurfer : I started to miss sailing alone or with my wife. The 630 is a very nice and desirable boat but I am "trapped" to have at least a permanent crew on board and singlehanded sailing is completely out of question. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sailkoop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2011 at 18:26
Hi panos,
If you are missing a two handed trip a lot, I only can give you the tip to go to a 470e!! Best to sail with your wife and for me also the best boat for racing with a crew, in or offshore!!

All time a handbrite
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 September 2011 at 12:53
panos
I did not realize you came from Greece
& now you have let slip that you want a smaller boat !!
So here is an idea - flog the H63, buy an H320 ( you will love it)
With the rest of the change send some of our 120 Billion trillion euros back
Then I could buy a 355 out of my pension & Johan could by loads of spares- rudders , swim platforms, windows etc. The euro would be saved , you would be a hero &  the Hanse flag would prosper & we could all go sailing together. the world's problems solved at a stroke Thumbs%20Up


Edited by samuel - 30 September 2011 at 12:54
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote seileren1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 September 2011 at 13:54

Interesting discussion, I sail my 430 single-handed. Is it possible with the 545 or do you need two-handed or a whole crew for this boat also?

 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote superliga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 April 2012 at 18:10
Hmm. I thought the 630 would offer shorthanded crusing. 
But you are right about the shorthanded options with the 470.
I can use my 470 singlehanded in any conditions. Up to apr. 12 knots i can fly the Asymetric Spinnaker of +200 M2 if the waves are not too big - the autopilot will not hold the boat stable long enough for me to pull the snuffer down.

I do agree on your opinions about Hanse.
After 4 seasons i have not found a replacement for my 470e meaning apr - but the carbon rig would be nice to have on the 470 Smile 

The closest option for me would be the Shipman 50 in full carbon.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy_Diver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2012 at 21:30
Hi Panos,
Can you give some feedback about the hull condition, any color fade, especially in way of fenders ?
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tobo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2013 at 11:04
Dear Panos,
After six years of sailing a 470 I can agree on most of your comments, except for the watermaker (Schenker 60) we very often used as it was difficult to get water in Greece if you have a 2.60m draft. Our Simrad - which is of course much simpler than yours - collapsed about 3 times in these years loosing their IP-adresses but as you say if someone is willing to study manuals you can manage such situations.

Even your comments on the dealership are totally correct. (Mine was Dutch-Croatian but nothing better) It's a pity Hanse does not do more to train dealers as they are absolutely crucial for the image of the brand. After one year of sailing our Hanse I knew a lot more than my dealer! I often missed the commitment to the job!  but it may be better now. Of course it's difficult to make a Swiss guy happy.

Final question: Do you stick to Hanse? Ever looked at a Bordeaux 60? (http://www.cnb-yachts.com/) The B60-owners also seem to be a sworn in community like Hanse owners. If I had the money I would buy her right away!


Edited by tobo - 02 January 2013 at 11:37
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jeancharleb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 January 2013 at 15:44
Good post Panos, what I find so good about revelations is that, it positions ourselves more rationally with our personal opinion on our boat and / or dealer.

With my Hanse 470e 2010 ( 4th season coming ) I had so many problems that owners of Hanse would never believe. Almost went through everything in 3 years.

Just for respect I would like to use your  post as a template to post my comments on mine in 470 section of course. Would suggest that every section does it the same way. That way a excel tabloid could be made for quick references!
Jean Charlebois
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