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    Posted: 23 July 2017 at 02:01
So Hanse has announced the 388 - seems to be a little lighter in the saloon with some extra windows built into the hull. What does everyone think? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote S&J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2017 at 07:35
I am looking forward to seeing one. I understand that the new designs will all be at the Southampton boat show.
Looks like the heads layout has been altered which might address my biggest gripe about the current design.
More ports in the saloon will also help. I miss the hull ports in the saloon that I had in my previous boat.
Mast looks taller but sail area appears similar.
Additional lockers take advantage of the wasted space at the aft end of the hull.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndyS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2017 at 14:05
Great point about the wasted space aft - I always feel like every inch should be useable for something. 
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The only goal: reduce the cost of production and sell it more expensive
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote S&J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2017 at 14:28
Magnum, what have you seen to suggest that the price has increased? The prices I have seen (Spanish dealer) look comparable with the 385. I can understand that the factory may want to simplify manufacturing costs but that does not necessarily reduce quality.
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HI,
The price related to the basically version now is 138 k. In 2016 the comparebal price has been 123 k. The ship now has less sail, more ballast, more draft. Seems that there is a conjunction to the new rules of seeworthiness. The interior has been changed in the area of the salon. Additional windows in the hull take place instead of boards. No bow lamps at all, no wine lockerin the salon, no seat board in the bow cabine. And no openable windows. But an aditional skylight. At least the layout of the locker has been changed a litle bit. But too less place remains to be less place.
All in all I think that the yard has been urged to relaunch the 385 because of the changed seeworthiness criterias. Some not so worthy changes concerning the interior are used to cover the real necessary. And of course: to increase the price.
All the information launched here are referred to the launched information in the internet at present but may be wrong at least.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 415 Singapore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 August 2017 at 09:04
When we bought our 415 three years ago, we looked closely at the 385 as well, so I was interested to read about the certification changes to the 385 and subsequent launch of the 388. Having just looked on the Hanse website to look at the 388, I see there is now a 418 that replaces the 415. From what I understood the certification of the 415 didn't change so why have they replaced a relatively recent model?
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They have launched the model 348 too. And the 345 was really a young design. I am owning a 385 gone to water in early 2016. The CE classification is A. For more details pls. refer to the thread about this issue.
Comparing the stability curves of 385 and 388 you will find that the 385 has 5000 kgm and the 388 has 6000 kgm righting moment. Perhaps the model 415/418 may have similar measurements. But all figures are calculated for the static case. That means: no waves, no wind, no movements. The more realistic case is the situation on wild sea and strong wind...
The intepretation is really not so easy. In former times never any designer could calculate the stixx-index, whiche tries to translate the complicate dynamic issue of the behavior of a ship into one figur only. But today the yards are contributed to fullfill the CE-norms.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Yeoman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2017 at 18:36
Hi All,
 
We will try to update the forum with the new models but for now they are fine in the old categories.
 
There will be 4 new models this year, which are the 348, 388, 418 and 548.
 
The 345, 385 and 415 are all relatively old for a series boat builder being launched 5/6 years ago.
 
The new models do all of the things the older models did well in terms of the fully laminated bulkheads, big subframe structures, easy handling etc but also address some of the items that could be improved.
 
The rig on the 348 and 388 are slightly taller and the sail area slightly larger to assist with light wind sailing.  Up 3.5 sqm on the 348 and up 2 sqm on the 388 (a mistake on the initial spec release suggests a slight reduction).
 
Keel design and weight is increased slightly on all, which has a particular benefit on the 388 as it puts it back in the Cat A, which became more stringent in January this year.
 
Storage space is improved, additional light below, new hull windows, a higher quality of interior finish - all good stuff really.
 
It is a more expensive boat to build, especially due to the use of structural glass around the companionway to improve the light below but not hugely more expensive.
 
A little price increase is not too painful as no-one wants to own the cheapest boat on the water ;-)
 
 
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Hi Yeoman,

thanks for the helpful comments.

I just took a view into the specifications which are shown on the hanse site. For the 388 the sail area is 72 sqm (=-2sqm). The animation pics show that the windows in the hull now can not be opened.

But any way: I feel fine with my 385. But the question is why does Hanse nothing to explain what has changed the certification? At present some hundreds of owners are really worried about this issue.

Best greetings, Magnum1
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