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    Posted: 25 December 2018 at 13:51

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rescue-4-crew-sailboat-off-halifax-1.4949986


There’s discussion of this incident on other forums. Easily findable via google.

Looks like another steering/autopilot issue.

Terrible time to be off Nova Scotia in any sailboat.

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http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f158/four-crew-rescued-from-disabled-sailboat-off-coast-of-nova-scotia-211485.html

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I have tried to find a few articles but there appears to be no report of any boat failures.

I wonder what happened
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JonB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 January 2019 at 09:02
Suggests it was taking on water, lets hope its not the same issue I had. Yacht seems to be intact so whether they'll tow it or leave to take its course and locate it after the storm to bring it in. Be interesting as a manufacturer to find out.
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Vessel of Interest Big smile?  Normally this refers  to a US submarine Wink
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Submarine - a surface vessel capable of submerging.

Hanse 495 - a surface vessel capable of surviving most conditions, hopefully all, so lessons need to be learned if that's not the case.  If abandonment was due to being in the wrong place at the wrong time, for the crew that was on board, then it's not the fault of the boat.
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Mikael,

Thank you for finding this, seems several little (or not so little), things brought about what must have been a catastrophic event for the crew.

Hearts go out especially to the rescue and other crews that were out there enduring the extreme power mother nature has to offer and that we, the abusers of the planet, are re-arming her with greater power.

I'm no expert, just an Engineer trained to think logically. Hat's must also come off to Hanse for manufacturing a Hull that withstood & remained afloat
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But maybe not a robust enough steering gear?  It seems to be the Achilles heel on this and other incidents?  What do you think?
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Originally posted by colinc colinc wrote:

But maybe not a robust enough steering gear?  It seems to be the Achilles heel on this and other incidents?  What do you think?

It would be interesting to get more details about the incident. 

The text for CE A rating (to which most modern "production" sailboats are built) goes like this: 

Quote A recreational craft given design category A is considered to be designed for winds that may exceed wind force 8 (Beaufort scale) and significant wave heights of 4m and above but excluding abnormal conditions such as storm, violent storm, hurricane, tornado and extreme sea conditions or rogue waves.
 

(In the supplemental texts the exclusion is specified more exactly, to mean wind speeds below force 10, storm.)

According to the article, "The winds hit 76 knots—about 140 km per hour—and the boat was “heeling rather alarmingly” amid the fierce gusts". 

Sustained 76 knots would be force 12. Assuming 76 knots was a 50% gust, the sustained wind would be 51 knots, a force 10. This is marginally out of the scope of CE A, so not what the boat was designed for.

But this is just theoreticizing, of course. It's not known if stuff broke due to normal fatigue/having defects, or being exposed to bigger forces than it was designed for. 

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