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    Posted: 18 July 2016 at 07:53
I use an anchor chain hoor when moored to take the strain off the windlass due to there being no internal strong point for the hook strop. This means I have to use the port bow cleat but this prevents the locker lid closing.

On my 370 I attached a D-ring to the moulding supporting the windlass as I made an access, installing a removable hatch.

The 415 has a small hand-sized hatch on the underside of the moulding in the front cabin. This seems to give access to wiring only, not even the windlass retaining bolts so one assumes Hanse expect these item to never need servicing or replacing!

Does anyone know if cutting a hole in the vertical surface of the moulding will give access to both the windlass bolts & the area I'm for a D-ring? Im thinking it could go either on the rear or right hand side of the windlass moulding.

Alternatively I could use a V-yoke attached to both bow cleatswith the chain hook at the mid-point. What solutions are currently being used by others?

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Nigel,

We have used a two armed V yoke for all anchoring which we loop over each forward cleat to take the load off the anchor winch. We have a SS chain clamp at the V end which slips over a chain link. This is easy to attach and easy to get off.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 415 Singapore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2016 at 10:30
Hi we use the same method as Wayne having closed the anchor locker first, ok you can't get to the anchor locker whilst it is rigged, but we don't store anything else in there so no problem!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2016 at 21:47
Doing the same, but no issue closing/opening the anchor locker. I have the bridle sitting in front of the boat, not lead over the anchor roller, but coming straight of the cleats with the V sitting in front of the bow.
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We use a bridle, so our hook has two fixed length lines with loops at the end that pop over the two forward Cleats. Because of the near vertical bow, we fit a solid bow fender first. So that when the snubber lines take the strain, the fender stops the hook fouling the bow. I'll try and find a photo
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 415 Singapore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 July 2016 at 07:17
Hi just to explain, having been caught a couple of time by 'williwaws' (very sudden strong gusts 35+ knots 180 degree direction changes) whilst anchoring we prefer to use the bow roller and keep everything above deck for ease of immediate get away :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark&Catherine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 July 2016 at 08:43
Yes, we have thought about this too, with our arrangement we pull in some chain, flip the hook off the chain and leave it hanging on the two cleats, very quick.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Persse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 July 2016 at 09:24
I am only using a single snubber line attached to one of the forward cleats.
I like the V shaped ones and will make one up one day, but the current arrangement works fine.
I have a little over 6 metres 18 mm nylon 3 strand so that it has some cushioning, never had a problem getting it of quickly and have been anchored in some heavy winds off Flinders Island, Tasmania.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Simon L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2016 at 22:49
I use a single line, but take it back to the centre cleat.  This gives 8m of nylon to get some stretch, but it doesn't reach the water so it stays dry.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote charentebob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2016 at 07:47
I've thought about a V-yoke myself. What sort/size of rope are you guys using for the yoke. What length of rope from forward cleat to anchor chain hook has been found best? My s/s hook which slides on to a link is fine when the chain is under tension but I'm not certain what would happen when it goes slack. Any thoughts on this point?
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