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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2018 at 10:38
Hi Nigel,
Below is some independent test results on anchors. I have been reading everything I could  find on anchors for the past 2 years & Cruising Helmsman has also published many good articles on the subject. The one rider is that there is no perfect anchor for every situation one might encounter. I also had a number of conversations with Rex Francis of Anchor Right who design & manufacture the Sarca anchors. I already have the thumbs up from the Admiral after this short time. Regular multiple anchoring attempts does not do anything for good relations with the Admiral on the yacht.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Captain Haddock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2018 at 04:59
Hi Mike,

Can I ask how much chain you have? I am about to increase my chain from 30 to 60 metres and replace the Delta 16kg with a Rocna 20kg. This is for an east coast trip this winter. Interested in your opinion.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2018 at 11:49
Hi Steve, My yacht, "Elara" came with 30m chain & 20m of rope. Not enough for Sydney Harbour at New Year or some parts of the Hawkesbury River area that I frequent. As part of my anchor upgrade I have added another 30+m of chain so now have 60+m of chain & 20m of rope. You are making the right decisions for your trip so that you can sleep well no matter what the conditions. But you still need to be careful once you get into the Whitsundays where you may be anchoring in coral debris on the shores of some of the islands. Enjoy your trip.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Captain Haddock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2018 at 04:35
Hi Mark and Catherine. I know this is an old thread but I installed a 20kg Rocna on my 385 earlier in the year prior to a cruise on the Australian east coast(ongoing). Iím very impressed with the holding power of the anchor and can recommend it for the 385. It fits without modification to the bow roller fitting. A slight modification to the roller allows
the pin to fit in front of the anchor to hold it securely. I also installed 60m of 8mm G4 chain and havenít noticed any weight issue. I can provide photographs and further details if itís of further interest.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Breathe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2018 at 11:29
Hi All,

We used the Delta on Breathe for the first time last week. The anchorage was a well known location where the CQR on our old boat set first time every time. It took three attempts for the Delta to set with the anchor dragging when applying engine reverse to dig it in.

We eventually got it to set by using a very low level of engine power, and building power slowly, but did not have a lot of confidence in the amout of grip available.

Is that a typical experience with the Delta?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Persse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2018 at 12:54
Hi Gordon
 The way you describe is the way we have set the anchor from Port Phillip and around N.E.Tasmania and up to Cairns. Gently reverse and gradually increase power.
We still just use the 16 kg Delta that came with the boat. It has been adequate, but that is all. They are a basic middle performing anchor that at 16 kilos is at the lower end for a boat set up with sprayhoods and other wind catching gear. I stuck with mine because of it fitting into the bowsprit. Once set I haven't had a problem except on really bad ground.
My spare is a weed and rock specialist anchor, but I will definitely get something like the rocna described above when we go on our next extended cruise for  a primary anchor.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark&Catherine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 September 2018 at 12:23
my problem with the rocna is that it looks like the hoop will foul the furling drum on my furlstrom gennaker, do you use a furlstrom Steve?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mr Bluesky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2018 at 15:05
Hi I am looking at a Rocna 20kg for my 385, as next season weíre circumnavigating British Isles. Experience over the last three years is the Delta is ok in sand or mud, but any forage present and it simply slides.
If you have pics you can share that would be much appreciated, donít really want to modify the bow too much, but small amount quite acceptable.
Interested to hear from anyone regarding the Rocna hoop fowling the furling gear of a Genacker.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndyS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2018 at 16:39
We have had good luck over the past year with our Mantus 35 pound stainless anchor. It fits well and never has slipped on us. Their swivel is also really good and heavy duty. I think Mantus is a great company with innovative products and everything is very high quality. Where we sail the bottom is pretty soft and muddy, so I cannot say how it would do in other situations. 


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