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    Posted: 22 March 2017 at 07:40
Has anyone worked out a good way to lower and raise the anchor without it hitting the bow? We have a Rocna 40kg and it tends to swing very close to the bow.

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Henry,


We have a 45 Ultra and normally the anchor does not hit the bow stem. The situation when we do have a problem is if the anchor is raise in exactly the upside down position and it does not turn over it can get stuck in the bow roller coming up at an angle of 45 degrees. At this point if the anchor winch operator just drops the anchor it will hit the stem. We need to hold the anchor off with a boat hook whilst it is lowered then spin it around so the and point is directed at the bow then all is well. So for us the AW operator needs to make sure the anchor in its the correct (or near the correct) orientation when the anchor leaves the water. Sometimes we may need to rotate the anchor around using the boat hook (long boat hooked required) or drop the anchor back down so it is just in the water and use the bow thruster which will then make the anchor rotate. 

We have found that if the anchor is in the correct orientation the AW operator needs to bring the anchor up into the bow roller in one operation ie don't stop and restart the AW after the anchor has left the water. 

The other situation we have found which causes the anchor to swing back and forth is if there is swell on the beam and the boat is rolling. This imparts swing on the anchor once it leaves the water. In this situation we thrust the boat around so we are facing any swell and this stops the swinging. 

This season we are going to fit a bow fender which should help if the AW operator is not fully on her game. 
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Hey Wayne,

Thanks for the reply. I had a bow plate made to protect the bow as we tried out a bow fender and it ended up being too clumsy to deal with. 

I will give the boat hook a go and also like the idea of non-stop after the anchor is clear of the water.

Cheers for the advice.
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Keep in mind that the plate doesn't prevent it from hitting the bow,  just protects the bow.    What I've seen is that most people are in such a hurry to get the anchor up that they crank it up at full speed and that jerks the anchor around when it hits the bow roller.

If you stop to let the anchor orient itself to the bow roller and come up slowly, the motion is a lot less violent and manageable.

Now... I've not done this on my 575 yet,  but I've experience with other boats and my guess is its similar.
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A boat hook is essential to fend of and turn the anker around ready for the roller when lowering and raising it
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Persse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 March 2017 at 04:25
I let the anchor stop just submerged until I am happy with way it is orientated, then bring it up in a continuous lift. I did put an oversized swivel on though, and have had no trouble since.
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In my case I adopted a radical though expensive solution.

I had built a new bow anchor fitting, about 23 cm. longer and with double pulley, left and right of the stay.

same shape as original.

no more bow - anchor contacts since then!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Phoebus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2017 at 10:37
Can you post a photo of your new bow fitting
 
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I also took the chance to add a second pulley in case I need to hook to a buoy
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