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    Posted: 14 February 2016 at 14:23
I'm considering a cruise to the Baltic from England this summer. It will be my first time.

I will likely set sail at the beginning of June - spend a few days in Holland (separately I've posted a question about marinas near Den Haag) and then head up north, probably entering the Baltic via the Kiel Canal. There would be a crew of 4, including myself.

I'm not too sure how far we'll be able to get; I need to be back in England at the start of September so I should have July and most of August to spend in the area. I'd like to visit Kobenhaven and also Gilleleje in the north of Denmark (family connections).

I have number of concerns (being a "first timer"). One, the H455's dimensions. With a LOA of 13.95m, a beam of 4.38m and a draft of 2.25m I expect to experience some restrictions as regards access. Also I'm concerned about using "box moorings" as I don't have rubbing strakes (another separate post today). And then there may be bridges to contend with with a mast height of 20.6m.

Are there any recommendations as regards cruising areas/places to visit? And also marinas where I might be able to moor without having to enter a box?

And any general tips as regards equipping a new H455 for cruising in this region?

As ever, any suggestions will be much appreciated.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Niels Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2016 at 10:32
Don't worry Richard the waters around Denmark are great, I spend 3 summers there, Danish myself, all bridges I came across was minimum 26meters LAT, depth is easy you seldom come across a tide of more than 80cm, I'm drawing 2.4 meters and never had a problem, regarding the stakes I was like you concerned in the beginning but in the end I used them to guide me in at most times most of them are wood if any marks they just polished of with a light polish.
The professionals take around 4 to 5 days from south of England we took 11 with plenty of stops.
As soon as you are through the Kieler canal that's it you are in the beautiful waters around Denmark you won't regret going there, all the best
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gertha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2016 at 18:54
Richard,
i have a load of Charts for Baltic plus pilot books, although Denmark maybe missing.
P.M. me if you want to borrows no plans to go that way this year.
As I said in other post , you may have to learn to live with posts as that is the main way to tie up.

Baltic is great; had 3 separate trips there.

If time is tight you can leave a boat cheap for the winter in several places.

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Many thanks Simon. I have sent a PM.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Niels Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2016 at 20:34
Additional to my previous input a lot of old harbors are converted into pleasure harbors with no poles, side to ocationaly rafting up, however the charm with being alongside the old key is great, if you want to have a list of harbors I visited I can pm you the names for you to look up.
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Thank you - that would be great Niels. Have you visited these harbours in your 470?
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A few ideas for prepping for a longish trip; also the Baltic
1. Engine and battery, modern boats use a ton of power, the basic Hanse used to suffer from poor twin battery changeover , alternator and battery size. The golden rule , as I see it, put on the max size of batteries you can fit, then multiple charge sources. We have solar, wind , water, and twin alternator plus 440 amp battery bank.
A kit of basic engine spares , like belts and filters plus oil.
I have spent time in loads in ports with other cruisers and most problems are electric. A simple multimeter and how to use it appears to be beyond a lot of boat owners; but is more important than a sail repair kit.
2. Sails and rigging, a 3rd reef is a must, plus a way to set it, the Baltic throws up equals and thunderstorms as good as anywhere. spare blocks and ropes the more the merrier . A decent set of needles a palm thing , thread and sail repair tape. Who wants to be stuck in a town waiting for a sail repair when a DIY repair on deck with a cold beer is all that is required.
3. A bow ladder is needed for baltic, a lot of marina is bow in to a low dock; there are places my 370 is a struggle, a 455 you will need legs longer than god normally gives.
4. Plenty of ABBA to play on the stereo; this tends to drive the locals away so you can have your own space for the evening.
5. Stern anchor, a small anchor on a short chain plus rope is my option. The locals set up roles of tape; works well but not vital for a short trip; however the option to nose ashore with anchor out the back is a good option.
6. Drink that is, yeast supported drink is more expensive in the Baltic if you are Sweden; so stock up in Germany

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Many thanks Simon. Again all most helpful.
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Being close to South of Denmark (Maasholm) & sailing there 40-50 days per season, I can only recommend  to sail there! It is a nice and quiet area, though one have to say in high season some nice places are very crowded.

In South Denmark you would never require a stern anchor, I think actually in whole Denmark very
seldom. Quite different though in Sweden or Norway, there it is definitely necessary to have it ready. 
Indeed the Bow ladder could be very useful in more modern marinas. 

I would certainly recommend to anchor close to islands such as Lyø or even smaller, Avernakø, 
these are nice places. Also very secure is the inner bay at Hørup Hav, with very good ground for achorage.

Enjoy your tour!
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It all sounds very attractive. Thanks for the advice Vertigo. 
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