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    Posted: 19 September 2017 at 16:01
I find the battery and tank monitoring system on the 575 pretty primitive.   I need to know how many amps are being drawn out of or going into the batteries,  consumption of specific devices (ex:  refrigeration or lights),  and how many hours at current rate of draw,etc..

The new 575's have a MasterBus setup which means Mastervolt's monitor will work, but there are also Phillippi and SIMarine units available which do a lot.

What do people have and any considerations I need to think about before a decision?   Have it narrowed down, but as always appreciate input

https://www.simarine.net/
*** SIMarine monitor

https://www.bruceschwab.com/monitoring-control/
*** Phillippi PSM monitor



Edited by Black Diamond - 19 September 2017 at 19:57
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fendant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 September 2017 at 16:17
Rick,
I have the Philippi System for tank and battery Monitor, I have also replaced all the crappy Hanse sensors with Philippi sensory. Today I would certainly go for the Philippi bus System.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Black Diamond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 September 2017 at 17:33
Can you explain how the Phillipi tank monitors went in?

I'm told the use ultrasonics to sense the tank., not floats
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fendant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2017 at 08:13
Rick, I am using the ultrasonic only for the blackwater and the grey water tank. Diesel and Freshwater tank are magnetic Floating sensor. Both were drop in interchangeable with the crappy Hanse sensor and I used the existing wiring.
Will post Pictures when I return home Monday
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Hi Rick,

here is my setup with the monitors. I just doubled the Würth panel by a custom made one ordered on the internet by a company in Berlin ( they make a simple CAD program available ).

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And here is the water tank sensor, I used two wires of the existing cable and connected to the Philippi monitor
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Here is the fuel tank sensor, it is drop in interchangeable into the existing hole, again the existing cable to the Würth panel was used:
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Here is the complete setup:
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Black Diamond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2017 at 18:31
Outstanding.. thanks...  I like the fact that the sensors are (largely) interchangeable...   Let me digest this a bit.    The SIMARINE monitor is pretty nice and has some granularity that the Phillippi didn't seem to.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote avi8tor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 February 2018 at 14:36
Hi there

Last year when I replaced the house batteries, the only way that Victron would warranty the new ones, was with a batt monitor. Its pretty neat and easy to use.

As for the tank issue, I have installed the Volvo Tripcomputer software, so at least i have an accurate fuel flow and total, but to make that work, i need a Fuel Level in NMEA2000 format. I have a unit from Navico, that will digitize the signal. Also will have a go at calibrating the gauges. Will keep u posted.




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H575 in Dubai, new to boat ownership
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