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    Posted: 23 July 2014 at 23:58
Wondering if anyone has done anything to improve access to bilge.  I have cut some additional panels under the salon table but would like to get a little deeper - preferably to lowest point - to be able to manually pump or sponge the bilge dry (after pouring in some bilge cleaner).   Seems very hard to get that last bit out.  Have heard of one owner who "cut through the grid" for exactly this purpose but have not been able to get on the boat or get a photo.    
Our boat is a 2007 400e
Thx in advance. 
Rich Jessop
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Hey Rich,
 
Good to see you here.  You may recall meeting me at SSC years ago, and I am the owner of Gemini now (formerly Commanche which used to be at RYC).  Martin Van Breems, the original dealer, had cut a hole in the grid of our boat that is accessible via pulling up the existing middle floor board access panel (basically flipping it around its originally intended placement).  I can stick a manual bilge pump into the access hole in the grid and pump into a bucket to get the last bit of water out.  Can try to send you a pic later.
 
Last year I was having a fair amount of problems with (fresh) water getting into the bilge.  I basically stopped screwing down the middle floorboards to the left of the keel for easy access.  I covered the boat this winter, got it all dried out, and seem to be having fewer problems.  Rain water was leaking in from the stern lockers (which you don't have), and I think from a poorly bedded steering pedestal.  Since putting some towels down in the aft locker to soak up the mositure, and getting a cover for the steer pedestal, it has gone away.
 
Good luck,
James
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2014 at 18:19
One of the problems with shallow bilges is that there can be a lot of water but too shallow to make the pump turn on. Also if the strum box is not very efficient there will be alot of water trapped in the pump hose which will run back
My solution has been to drill a hole in the floor just above the deepest point. I now have an oil extractor which is the type that extracts into a bottle. The hole in the floor is just enough to take the tube so it stays upright.
I pump up the extractor, The water is then drawn into the bottle. having a hose of only 6mm diameter the water can be fully removed & virtually nothing runs back. The hole in the floor is drilled on tha line of one of the seams so is hard to see
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Found a pic of Gemini's bilge area with most of the floorboards pulled up.  You will see the one down with the access panel to the hole that was made in the grid.  It just needs to be big enough to fit a manual bilge pump in.
 
Also on my punch list is to by a secondary bilge pump, or move the existing one.  The orginal placement just forward of the engine is completely useless.  I have NEVER seen water settle there, even when I had quite of bit of water.  It tends to like to settle in the area by the NAV table.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sabai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2014 at 02:51
Gents - Thx v/m - exactly the type of information I was looking for.  Much appreciated.  Rich 
Rich Jessop
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