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Posted: 10 January 2008 at 15:34 |
Hi Everyone!
First off congratulations for a great site! I've been lurking this week and it's great to have all this wonderful support and sharing of knowledge. I hope to soon be a 400 owner..... I have 3 related questions.... I'd like to ask whether anyone has a code 0 sail and whether the little bow extension or for that matter the rig could stand the forces it would place. The reason I ask Is because I am looking for a light wind sail for reaching in sub 10kt winds where the self-tacking Jib struggles ( according to my reasearch they can even beat to 40 degrees apparent). ..... or have I lost the plot entirely? Secondly are there 2 or just 1 assymetric/spinnaker halyards, and are they indeed masthead? Thirdly does anyone know the length of the assymetric/spinakker halyard? it would be nice to have it replaced with dyneema, like i plan to do with the main and jib halyards which having gleaned from another thread will come to 80m for both. I look forward to hearing your thoughts :-) ~~~~_/)~~~~ |
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Stria
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No idea about code 0, sorry.
as far as the other questions - 1 There is 1 asymmetric halyard and it comes out a bit over the jib-genoa. It's not really masthead. 2 - lenght of halyard for the asymmetric 40 mt best stria |
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My 342 has a sheave and slot for a second asymmetric/spinnaker halyard with a mousing line in it. We recently pulled in a second halliard as a spare as I had a suitable piece of rope spare and thought I might as well store it in the mast as anywhere else!
On the 342 the sheave is at the masthead but the halliard is led down the outside of the mast through a fitting like a pair of spectacles just above the forestay attachment so for sail measurement purposes it is fractional but for halliard length purposes it is masthead.
On a 342 the halliard length is 35m - if you had twice the difference between the heights of the mast on a 400 and a 342, that should be about right.
Hope this helps,
Ed Edited by Scorpio - 10 January 2008 at 17:25 |
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Thanks for your answer Stria. I'll be buying 120m of Dynema then for the main, jib, and assymetric halyards......
Can I ask you If you've been aloft whether the mast has a roller at the top to take a 2nd masthead spinakker halyard? ~~~~_/)~~~~ |
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Thanks scorpio, I think I understand that it's possible but that the masthead halyard doesn't run through the mast? Is that the jist? i didn't understand the words mousing line and sheave....
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The 400 (at least mine ;-)) come with one spinnaker halyard (not masthead) which runs inside the mast and comes out a bit over the jib. But I gather you can mount a second external halyard masthead. The profile of the mast is sparcraft S622 and you can gather all (or almost ;-)) drawings and all the informations here: www.sparcraft.com/uk/products/
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Stria, very nice detailed drawing.
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Can I ask you what you do for light wind beating/ reaching? Are you happy with just the self-tacker?
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it's the same old question ;-). As I don't race, my answer is yes: self tacking is more than enough (plus properly cut slim gennaker of course).
Anyhow the boat is designed from the start for a big main and relatively small jib (mast position, drawing plans etc). Some of the owners who added a big genoa (140%) complained that such a sail adds lots to healing and reduces pointing ability without increasing speed much , except maybe with light winds and chop. Just my 2 cents ps: i don't race but I don't either like to use the engine |
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Fair enough.....
My original thought, budget permitting was for a code zero reacher that could be used upto 40 degrees apparent in light winds, while also doubling up as a heavy wind runner, and then a 100-120sq m assymetric runner for upto 20-25kts. I guess i should wait till I get the boat first and see what other expenses I'll have. :-) There are several races here and in Greece that we'd like to participate in next summer..... |
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