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Congratulations Mark! Glad to hear she got there safely.

Look forward to seeing some more pic's when you have time.
One question.. What's was your reason for the bobstay? (sorry if that's a very basic question).

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For those working through the air con/ no air con debate here are my thoughts after only 4 days.
 
It is HOT here (above 40 degrees in th eday at the moment).  This is not the problem.  The humidity is killing us, we lose a lot of fluid everyday and we are drinking about 5 litres of bottled water trying to put the boat back together.  Everything slipps in our hands which are wringing wet.  Inside the boat we measured 38 degrees yesterday. 
 
We need to be able to dehumidify the air to avoid the boat growing damp.  I knew this and many of the boats here have small dehumidifiers left on the gally top discharging straight into the sink (meaning they leave the sea cock on that sink open), and I kntended to do the same.  However we went and bought a small portable A/C unit yesterday, one of those that uses a flexible hose for the heat exhaust.  IT cost less than 300 dollars and its great, half an hour and I could work in the cabin.
 
THis unit has a 0.7 rating and I think it is big enough to cool the whole boat if it was on for a while.  Of course its a drag getting it on and off the boat when you sail and return to your berth.  We will try it for a while and decide if we want to fit a perminant solution.
 
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No problem Simon, we ordered a furlstrom with the boat cut flat like a code 0, and we also have a fuller asymmetric spinaker which I have also had transferred from a snuffer to a top down furler, so I have two flying sails that will be flown from the front of the bow roller.  Eventually this load witll pull up the front of the bow roller and you will find other threads compaining about this and leaky anchor lockers.
 
Now we can debate why Hanse put the ring on the end of the roller if its not strong enough!  or we can take the belt and braces approach.
 
So for 250 quid we decided to avoid any problem and get the bow roller a strong bob stay, all I have to do is make sure it is tight and I can sail without worrying if the load is too high for the original fitting.
 
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Simon & Mark,
 
I think the attachment ring on the fwd end of the bow sprit is designed for a gennecker not for sails such as a code 0 or furlstrom. As these sails are on furlers they exert a lot of force on the bow sprit. The furler is under tension and this force is trying to pull the bow sprit up and towards the mast, particularly when you add tension when the mast is raked aft. Genneckers and similar sails do not load the bow sprit with the same amount of force and the force exerted is pulling the bow sprit fwd and up. So the standard arrangement offered by Hanse is not suitable for or designed to fly a code 0 or similar sails. By adding a bobstay the bow sprit is reinforced.
 
Aircond - we would not be without it unless you are only day sailing or serious about racing and don't want the extra weight on board. I gather Dubai is like here in Cairns - houses are airconditioned as are most cars and shopping centres etc etc so why have a boat without aircond?   
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"so why have a boat without aircond?"

If you're away from shore power how would you run it?
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You might be right there wayne, but they still managed to sell me the code 0 without the bob stay which added later.

Two reasons why no aircon

1 race 
2 will move the boat back to europe when my contract is finished here

So it was always the idea to put portable on when moored


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Simon,
 
As we will be living aboard for long periods we need an generator anyway so being able to use the aircond in cooling or heating mode whilst away from a marina will not be a problem. We have also added an extra fuel tank so we can stay away from marinas. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Persse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2013 at 11:09
Excellent modifications to your 385. I was impressed with the grab rails. As far as aircon goes - I have had a lot of different opinions. I went with it as we will end up in marinas at Cairns and Darwin and retrofitting did not appeal.
The portable option would be equally as valid, at sea it will open hatches only.
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Although I have a friend who has aircon fitted and takes one of those suitcase generators on long trips so he can run it away from the dock.  No good in a blow though.
 
The good news is that we all like Hanse's even though we use them for different things.
 
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Suitcase generator, never thought of that...

Does anyone have any links to these portable aircon / heater units + suitcase generators?

I guess the great thing about going down that road is you just get them out when they are needed, they store them away again when not.
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