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    Posted: 11 July 2018 at 10:48

Apparently I got bitten by the sailing bug again, and after briefly having to live without a boat I've lately been spending A LOT of my free time window shopping for a new one as well as diligently reading myHanse to get some understanding about what Hanse owners think about their yachts. Smile

A few unresolved thoughts: 

- A good dealer is key to a good buying experience, which seems quite intuitive. I've contacted the dealer here in my country of residence (Finland) a few times, but haven't yet received any of info that I requested. Is it possible to make the deal with another dealer within the EU? I guess it should be in the spirit of free movement of goods/services within the union, but I suspect that in practice it isn't due to close cooperation with local yards (or actually being both dealer and yard)?

- I see a lot of posts concerning snag lists, poor build quality etc from ten years ago. What is the current situation? What should I expect in terms of problem fixing after the yacht is delivered? I assume everything is better now Big smile

- We're a family of 2 + 4 children and want to cruise in the Finnish archipelago as well as maybe take the odd trip further to Gotland etc. Maximising cabin space and minimising draft we're looking at 348, 388 or 418. As my previous boat was an IMX-38 (which was a joy to sail!) it would be really nice to have a boat that at least theoretically has roughly the same performance, and this narrows it down to 388 and 418. They both look beautiful, have only a small difference in draft, and I am having a hard time figuring out whether the actual difference in performance and space is large enough to justify the increase in price and maintenance costs.

- We're big fans of the light "scandinavian" (IKEA? Big smile) interiors. It's a very fresh move away from the "dark cave" look of more seasoned yachts. Still, in the second hand market most Hanses come with the classic mahogany furniture and floorboard. I wonder why? 

- Lastly: we're not buying this boat for a lifetime, but rather as a few years project until we're ready for the next one. With this in mind, it would be good to select options that won't affect the value of the yacht terribly negatively when we eventually want to sell it a few years down the road. Any help relating to this is much appreciated Smile. I think we won't change our minds about the mahogany furniture, but what about teak/synthetic teak/no teak at all? Anything else?


Thanks for your comments and here's to hoping that next summer we'll be able to contribute to this forum as actual owners in addition to being the dreamers we already are Beer

Cheers,

Mikael Lönnroth



Edited by mglonnro - 11 July 2018 at 10:49
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If you sailed x-yachts IMX38 and now want a short keel version I think you will get very disappointed with sailing performance but enjoy the high living comfort.

I had x-79 and changed to Hanse311 and now got a Hanse370.
Even with the 1979 design x-79 jib/genua tracks were spot on. Have never heard about an x-yacht that had to move it's tracks. This forum is full of these stories. Long story short a similiar sized x-yachts (mayby except xc-line) will outperform any hanse yacht.
Dehler is more like x-yacht.

Btw. There are a lot of Hanse 370 out there with bright color interior.
Like this one 3 cabin that has already improved jib tracks :-)
Going secondhand you will see that the previous owner has fixed a lot of issues. (One item of caution is the yanmar SD50 saildrive, I desided to avoid )

/H8jer


Edited by H8jer - 11 July 2018 at 21:05
Hanse 370#480 30HP 3-cabin
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Thanks for your comments!

And no, not the short keel version, the normal one. IMX-38 draft was 2,11m and although not that short, it wasn't too much of a problem in the archipelago. Hanse 388 normal keel is 2,06m, so that should be ok.

Before the IMX I actually had a Dehler 34, and that was fun too Big smile

Thanks so much for the link! I found a few other nice boats there as well! Are there any other sites you can recommend for used yachts within the EU? I've located yachworld.com, theyachtmarket.com, blocket.se in Sweden and nettivene.com in Finland.

And thank you for the other comments as well. Going second hand would mean we might be out sailing already this year, which would be a definite bonus!

/Mikael
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Thank you, h8jer!

Found a couple of really interesting 415s. 
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