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    Posted: 01 August 2017 at 00:23
Hi all

Anyone got some good experience of emergency boarding ladders?  Tested out our pushpit mounted one, at anchor in warm, calm conditions and was really very difficult to get back on board.  Are there better ones available?

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Phil 

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I have mounted this one, but i have not tested! I guess it`s not easy to enter the boat from this one....

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Our boat has the standard one fitted into the transom as per Alidal's post above and without even trying it I could see it would be hopeless to use in and actual emergency whilst as sea. I gather this is fitted to meet some Eu regulation. Whilst we were in Malta at the beginning of the season I found a better alternative in a chandlery there and since I have seen the same ladder in another chandler in Greece. The ladder is called a "Safe Up" and is made by a Greek company called Lalizas. This unit is much more substantial and can be hung from the aft handrails which then are able to be used to help you climb on board. The only addition I had to make ours usable was to add a short tether so the ladder could be deployed from the water.   
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If anyone buys a plastic one, I suggest that they try it out.
I say this because a friend of mine had a Plastimo foldable one  for years. One day a heavy man fell into the marina & the people could not get him out, so my friend produced his ladder. He was shocked to find that the plastic rungs floated so the man in the water had no chance of getting his feet onto the bottom rung.
When my friend wrote to Plastimo re this, they said that there was nothing wrong with the ladder & that they had sold hundreds without complaint.
My friend solved the issue by fitting lead to the bottom rung, but would never have known if it had not been for this incident


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This gives me reason to dig up an old thread. I firmly believe the best safety device on your boat is the swim ladder, but it should be fixed. Here is how I solved it: http://www.myhanse.com/modifications-to-the-swim-ladder_topic1164.html.

If you use the same ladder for swimming as you will in an emergency situation you will already be familiar with the ladder. In an emergency situation you will not have to think about how to get aboard.

I sometimes walk around marinas to look how other boat owners have arranged their swim ladders and a gasp at the number of boats where the owners have secured the ladder with a rope so that it cannot be reached from someone already in the water.

The day before yesterday one of the real beginners at my boat club fell in the water when she and her family was docking their boat. Her life vest inflated and we were two people trying to help her to get up on the pontoon. It was a clown scene with the "baloon" (the life west) getting in the way. The lady then swam to the back of her boat and climbed the swim ladder. Easy!

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I replaced my "standard" boarding ladder with a stainless steel (with wooden tread) folding ladder mounted on the stern centreline.  Folded and in the upright position it comes roughly level with the top guard line.  Unfolded and down it has at least 3 rungs underwater.  This - along with the wide wooden treads - makes it possible to get out of the water.  Not easy when clothed, but possible.
The only downside of this arrangement is that in anything by flat seas the stern rises and falls so I'd not recommend trying to get back on board anywhere but amidships.  Hull vs head has only one outcome!
 
For this, I've made a "handy billy" that can either be shackled to the boom or onto the spinnaker halyard.  It can then attach to the lifejacket harness point and used to haul someone out.  Coupled with a weighted rope emergency ladder amidships I believe this gives the best possible option.
 
In the cold English Channel I'd not hesitate to call in a MoB as a Mayday immediately it happened when actually sailing.  Seconds count!  Evacuation to professional care to avoid secondary drowning or hypothermia setting in is critical in many cases.  You can always stand down the Coastguard later on if everything goes to plan.
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