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    Posted: 18 May 2017 at 14:59
Since my mast is placed down at the time I would like to take the opportunity and add another block at the very top of the mast. The idea came to me at the attempt to change the windex with a boatswain's chair (Bootsmannstuhl). This was however impossible, because the spifall block is about 2meter below the masttop attached.
Maybe I can use that rope to pull out a man over board again on deck and pull a Dinghy over the reling on deck.
What´s your opinion / experience ?






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Main halliard? My spin halliard is very close to the top also
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iemand Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2017 at 20:50
If you put an extra Halyard on the mast I would go for a maximum Code 0 hight which is specified by Selden. Normally it would be half way between forestay an top. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rubato Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2017 at 22:22
Originally posted by Mark&Catherine Mark&Catherine wrote:

Main halliard? My spin halliard is very close to the top also

Is it a Sparcraft mast or Selden M&C?  My 400 has a Sparcraft mast and the spin halyards go all the way to the top after going through an eye at the top of the forestay. So I can grab the spin halyard above the forestay and use that for the last 2 meters...  That doesn't help our friend here though...

Ida, do you still have a topping lift rigged, if so why not use the main halyard with the topping lift as a safety?
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I have the Selden furling mast.
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I have a Selden C211 mast on my H355 (nearly the same except for battened mainsail).
I have just set a Code0/gennaker halyard according to Selden specs (max 650 mm from forestay pin - so not the mast top).
As far as i know design of these mast tops is not compatible with a from mast top sheave.  this mast top is not 'upgradable'
Better ask Selden for further instructions
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ida Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2017 at 10:36
Although I wanted to have only a halyard to rich the masttop, I now see the possibility to operate a code0 / gennacker / spinnacker with that. Unfortunately, I sailed very little with my boat so far and I do not know what kind of sail I will need. In a few weeks I´ll be in Hindeloopen (NL) and meet other Hanse- owners, hope I can make a decision after talk with them.
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Ida, enjoy getting to know your boat, figuring out all the options is part of the fun! :)
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Hi Ida, I also have a Selden mast (although not furling main) and my masthead is identical to your photo. It appears that Hanse have used several mast suppliers for the 385. I just relaunched this week and I prepared my mast for refitting alongside a 2013 H385 owner (Inker?) who had a Z-Spars mast.

I believe that this can cause confusion about the size of spinnaker or code zero required as the Selden mast has a standard spinnaker halliard exit integrated into the forestay attachment and the others seem to have a separate sheave box significantly higher up the mast. Something similar can also be fitted to the Selden mast (W&R quoted approx €180 to for this).

I'm not sure why you might need an additional halliard just to get to the top of the mast? I used the main halliard with bosun's chair to replace my wind instruments last year. I used the spinnaker halliard as a secondary safety line accepting that there was a couple of meters "slack" in this when I was at the very top of the mast. I also held on pretty tight!

I do have an asymmetric spinnaker of approx 90m2 and have no problems using this with a snuffer from the standard halliard.
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