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alettaenmarcel
Admiral Joined: 15 August 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1218 |
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thank you for your reaction Panos
I thought you were selling , and was wondering why.
You understand , we ( hanse owners ) need your expertise at this forum and I am glad you are keeping you 630 and staying on the forum
greetings Marcel
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Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-......
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Windsurfer
Rear Admiral Joined: 07 April 2010 Status: Offline Points: 614 |
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Panos, you still haven't answered my question about 540 and 470...could you please explain in more details...
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Hanse 320 #079
White hull, tiller, short keel and rudder, standard North sails, Sparcraft rig |
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panos
Admiral Joined: 02 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1929 |
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@windsurfer : I started to miss sailing alone or with my wife. The 630 is a very nice and desirable boat but I am "trapped" to have at least a permanent crew on board and singlehanded sailing is completely out of question.
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Panos
Hanse 630e - selling her - |
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sailkoop
Commadore Joined: 02 September 2010 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 437 |
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Hi panos,
If you are missing a two handed trip a lot, I only can give you the tip to go to a 470e!! Best to sail with your wife and for me also the best boat for racing with a crew, in or offshore!! All time a handbrite |
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Bjoern |
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samuel
Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 26 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2683 |
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panos
I did not realize you came from Greece
& now you have let slip that you want a smaller boat !!
So here is an idea - flog the H63, buy an H320 ( you will love it)
With the rest of the change send some of our 120 Billion trillion euros back
Then I could buy a 355 out of my pension & Johan could by loads of spares- rudders , swim platforms, windows etc. The euro would be saved , you would be a hero & the Hanse flag would prosper & we could all go sailing together. the world's problems solved at a stroke Edited by samuel - 30 September 2011 at 12:54 |
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Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex
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seileren1
Captain Joined: 02 May 2007 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 344 |
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Interesting discussion, I sail my 430 single-handed. Is it possible with the 545 or do you need two-handed or a whole crew for this boat also?
Cheers
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superliga
Rear Admiral Joined: 25 April 2008 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 590 |
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Hmm. I thought the 630 would offer shorthanded crusing.
But you are right about the shorthanded options with the 470. I can use my 470 singlehanded in any conditions. Up to apr. 12 knots i can fly the Asymetric Spinnaker of +200 M2 if the waves are not too big - the autopilot will not hold the boat stable long enough for me to pull the snuffer down. I do agree on your opinions about Hanse. After 4 seasons i have not found a replacement for my 470e meaning apr - but the carbon rig would be nice to have on the 470 The closest option for me would be the Shipman 50 in full carbon. |
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PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com
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Easy_Diver
Lieutenant Commander Joined: 26 July 2008 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 69 |
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Hi Panos,
Can you give some feedback about the hull condition, any color fade, especially in way of fenders ? |
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tobo
Captain Joined: 01 February 2006 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 263 |
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Dear Panos,
After six years of sailing a 470 I can agree on most of your comments, except for the watermaker (Schenker 60) we very often used as it was difficult to get water in Greece if you have a 2.60m draft. Our Simrad - which is of course much simpler than yours - collapsed about 3 times in these years loosing their IP-adresses but as you say if someone is willing to study manuals you can manage such situations. Even your comments on the dealership are totally correct. (Mine was Dutch-Croatian but nothing better) It's a pity Hanse does not do more to train dealers as they are absolutely crucial for the image of the brand. After one year of sailing our Hanse I knew a lot more than my dealer! I often missed the commitment to the job! but it may be better now. Of course it's difficult to make a Swiss guy happy. Final question: Do you stick to Hanse? Ever looked at a Bordeaux 60? (http://www.cnb-yachts.com/) The B60-owners also seem to be a sworn in community like Hanse owners. If I had the money I would buy her right away! Edited by tobo - 02 January 2013 at 11:37 |
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Thomi
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jeancharleb
Captain Joined: 12 December 2008 Location: Marseille, Fr Status: Offline Points: 316 |
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Good post Panos, what I find so good about revelations is that, it positions ourselves more rationally with our personal opinion on our boat and / or dealer.
With my Hanse 470e 2010 ( 4th season coming ) I had so many problems that owners of Hanse would never believe. Almost went through everything in 3 years. Just for respect I would like to use your post as a template to post my comments on mine in 470 section of course. Would suggest that every section does it the same way. That way a excel tabloid could be made for quick references!
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Jean Charlebois
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