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    Posted: 28 August 2015 at 12:15
Hello everyone,
 
What do you think of choosing a mainsail furling for a HANSE 345 ?
The classic sail has an area of 32,5 M2 against 28 for the furling version. 
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Well, the 345 with  32.5m2 is already clearly underpowered in lighter winds. Don't think that a reduction of another 15% is a good idea. Furthermore the batttened main of the 345 is not that heavy. Better go for the FCL sails with lazyjacks and/or electric winches.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote geoffv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 September 2015 at 09:14
I have the in mast furling on my 345 with the FCL sails (no electric winches).

Boat sails beautifully and is very easy to handle all lines. I have added the extra winches though.

I got my boat last June and at that time I made the overall sail plan 2m2 less than the standard.
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hello geof,
I have ordered a 385 to get it in april next year. I ordered it with furling main but without electric winches. Because I may adjust the equipment until january, I´m unsure if that is good so.
Would you recomment the furling-main instead of regular main-sail?
Would you say that it is usefull to order electric-winches in addition to a furling main?
(I´m soon an old man and still hope to be able to sail until the age of 80).


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Furling or Not-Furling is a very personal decision, it is a personal love or hate.
 
I would takeboth  the electric winches, as they would not be retrofittable later on at reasonable cost.
I can't see how you can route the thick cables to teh winches at a later stage whithout ripping half the cabin apart. Yes I know it is $$$'s right now Cry but one day you will praise youself Handshake
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I chose the furling main for ease of use (which it has achieved for me) as I am now past retirement age and therefore require an easier life and like you wish to sail until my eighties at least!. If I was 10 years younger I would be choosing the extra workload of three reefs etc. which I have enjoyed for the last 35 years.

As to the necessity of electric winches I think you would need to ask that advice in the 385 section to see if anyone has gone down either route for a comparison and advice.
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We don't have the ekectric winches and don't need them except cathie can't winch me up the mast. I have been on a 415 with electric winches and they work ok, feels a bit less like sailing, but he can climb his mast.
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I love the electric winches on my 385. I sail on other boats with manual winches and have no problem with them myself, but on my boat set up for cruising with my wife, they are invaluable. I can steer and raise the mainsail at the same time, my wife can raise the mainsail while looking out for battens catching, as well as getting the jib in and out smartly. It is not so much a question of strength to operate the winches, but the ease and simplicity. I like to see my wife securely seated while doing these tasks.
The downside is that you could easily damage something through inattention, as there is a lot of power there.
I would still love my boat without these aids but don't regret having them.
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I think Phil has it right, when we were racing with 5 or 6 we never missed or needed the electric winch, now we are 2 and cruising, we dont need them as long as we are cruising with friends (which we do a lot), the autohelm can steer whilst raising the sail, but if you are on your own and need to go up the mast, then you are stuck.  Maybe if we never planned to race we would have had them too.  We have 4 weeks left this tour and will be on our own (until we meet more like minded folk, but its late season in Turkey and Greece)

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I forgot to add in regards to the topic in question, which is about in mast furling on the smaller hull sizes. 
While electric winches and batten cars make sail handling very easy, however, I would not hesitate to install furling gear if I thought it would make it easier for my wife, and add to her feeling good and safe about sailing, despite the added complexity and slight loss of performance.
This thinking is not how I would have looked at this 18 months ago, and while I don't need to worry as my wife loves sailing as we are, our boat is a completely a joint venture and that's how I want it to stay.
So it is not solely a technical issue if you see what I mean.
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