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Hi everybody,

At the "H345 Owner's Safety Manual" says that the max spin gennaker height at 13.680 meters of the mast base (760mm above FH). For the code zero it is 530mm above FH.

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Hi All,

I didn't have the chance to post my final feedback on this thread.
Eventually I decided to have a try with the standard mast configuration (i.e. without moving the gennaker halyard higher on the mast) and it proved to work perfectly well. I added a bobstay, though (as advised by the yard).
Here it is in all its beauty Tongue:

 


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I am new -  owner since july - with  Furstromer. The gennaker halyard position was changed (on my request) conform specifications Hanse gave to my dealer and Elvstrom. The halyard is lead down to a ring aprox 20 cm lower than the block.  It works well,  gr., Frank


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A question about the bobstay connection:

Is your bobstay also attached like on the pictures ?

I would have attached it to the ring in the middle.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2015 at 08:05
Hi Frank,

I have a 2014 model; I think the yard introduced the rings only recently.
Here is how they fixed the bobstay:


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Hi all;

I'm requesting quotations for a Furlstrom, as everyone seems quite happy with it; as I've seen specs showing 68 or 76 m2, I would like to ask those, like Frank f.i., that have it on their 345, what the actual size is, and if the furler is the Bartels FE III L.
Besides, does the Furlstrom arrive 100% ready to be mounted, or is anything left out that needs to be purchased ?

Finally, I would appreciate if someone could send me a PM with pricing info - I imagine it could be against forum policy to post figures.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Leo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 January 2018 at 20:29
Hi Maurizio, Hello everybody, 

would love to pick this up: 

  • did you end up with the Bartels FE-III ? 
    • Somehow I am always offered the FE-II, although it's only for up to 70m˛ and the Furlstrom is 76m˛
  • does anybody know whether its necessary to change the mast configuration with the Z-Spar mast?
  • did anybody not buy a furlstrom, but a different sail? I just wonder how hanse specific the furlstrom sails are and whether other "standard" gennakers of the same size work just as well

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Hi Leo, all concerned;

no, eventually I got a Selden CX 15 and a Quantum 66 m2 gennaker, an all around sail very close to the furlstrom; for the latter I had an offer with Bartels Fe-III, the Fe-II is in fact a bit under specs.
I have to admit that a major reason for me to choose the Quantum is that my boat is moored very close to their loft, which should help for future support if needed, and also got a noticeable price difference.
On the whole I'm happy of what I bought; the sail has a large working range; maybe I don't run as fast as others on light winds, but this may be me 😔 and the slightly smaller size and thicker cloth: 150 vs. 100.
I was not so happy with the way a reinforcing velcro was placed, though, but this is less important.
The Selden furler works very well; just not very easy to unlock the AT cable from the drum, so I normally pack it all together.
I have the Z-Spar mast and did no modifications.
I added a short bowsprit with stainless steel bobstay; a nice and tough design from Gold Service Rigging; I always prefer to stay on the safe side.

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Hi Folks,
 
I have the standard Elvstroen furlstroem on my 345 since 2014. Very pleased with it, as we are sailing mostly in light wind conditions ( bft 1-3 ). However I noted that my standard bowsprit was slightly bending upward when you pulled the halyard tight with the electro winch. I have therefore added a bobstay consisting of a threaded eye replacing the lower screw of the stainless bow attachment, a stainless spanner and an eye below the bowsprit. I have the feeling that I can point higher with this attachment, clearly this set up avoids the flex of the "bowsprit".
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Dear Maurizio, dear Frank, 

thanks a lot for your answers. They are very helpful indeed - and we will make sure that we reinforce the bobstay. Also my Hanse dealer reassured me that there is no need to change the mast configuration with the Z-spar mast, but it is recommended to get a Harken (Fallabweiser in German, not sure whether that's translated correctly ;-)).   

Good to hear that the Furlström goes in light winds, because that's what we want to have it for and other (cheaper) options are mainly made of fabrics that have double the weight per sqm...
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