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    Posted: 16 August 2005 at 20:23

Hello Hanse lovers,

Nice to be back online.The past summer wasn't the best for sunlovers, but for Scarab (Hanse 371) and me it proved to be well worth it. Recently I saw a Hanse 371 with two roller furling systems for Genoa and Jib.Does anybody have thoughts about having this combination ? I'm the proud new owner of hull #166.         & nbsp;      During the past summer here in Belgium I sometimes missed some extra sail when winds were < 15 knots.When I saw the combination of the two ( a genoa + self tacking jib ) I started to wonder...       When using the genoa doesn't the existence of the inner forestay ( Jib ) cause problems while tacking ? Thanks for all your posts about this subject.

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Yes, this makes a kind of cutter rig. With a static inner forestay this close to the main forestay, tacking the genoa would mean furling it each time. Of course this would be no good at all for racing, but for cruising many would consider the advantages of being able to quickly shortern sail, by rolling up the genoa and unfurling the jib, would outweigh the tacking issue.

I've seen a few setups like this for long distance cruising and for this kind of sailing it works well.

A compromise I would prefer would be to fit a removeable inner forestay. If beating in light winds one would remove it. If on passage it would be put in place with jib hanked on and stowed on deck. It is then easy to reduce sail. This is also a better arrangement for a storm jib.
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Has anyone considered using a Code Zero furler/sail.  I believe that it would provide the sail area of a 140-150 genoa but not the downwind ability of a cruising spinnaker or gennekar.  I understand that you put it up and take it down ech time you sail if you are to use it.
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Having a Code 0 on a furler makes for easy launch and retrieval but remember it also retricts the way this versatile type of sail can be used.

We've used (not on a Hanse but on a Grand Soleil) a Code 3 (same shape just smaller sail) in it's normal mode tacked to foredeck and sheeted alongside for close reaching. 

But also got good use flying it loose with our pole like a winged genoa - and indeed in strong winds we've flown it like a real spinnaker up in the sky.  Then the flatter shape worked really well for us in stronger (30 knots plus) conditions.  Ours was 1.5 ounce cloth in the luff going to 3/4 ounce in the leach.

Cheers

JOHN 



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