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    Posted: 03 July 2017 at 14:29
Hello,
I'm sorry but not speaking English, I use a translator to communicate.
I introduce myself. My name is Lionel, I live in France and we love navigation with my wife. We sold our boat and if possible I would like people with a Hanse 341 to answer my questions.
I find them very beautiful, seem solid. I know the 411 because a friend has one.
Can someone tell me if it is a fast boat or not because I hesitate between the hanse who complains about us and a First 36S7.
Making a little regatta, can you tell me how he behaves in regatta?
I watched but there is no Hanse 341 registered in the inter club regattas.
So if I do business with this model, I would be the first registered in france "genial".
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fendant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 July 2017 at 17:34
La First sera plus performant, specialement dans les vents faibles. Elle a plus de m2 dans les Voiles et elle est plus Long.
La Hanse sera comparable à partir de 15 noeuds.
 
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First will be better performing in light winds, Hanse will come up above 15kn TWS.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peter-Blake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 July 2017 at 18:27
It is a difficult question.....
Who is faster......Never the boat - always the better sailor ;-)

Following the yardsticksystem the First 36S7 is a little bit slower than the Hanse 341. (So far i thought Firsts are faster boats......but maybe this one is not)

Hanse 341 Yardstick is 95
First 36S7 is 97

So the diffrence on the paper is about 2%
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lonlon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 July 2017 at 22:03
Thank you for your answers and I hope that the translator's English suits you.
Now, does anyone tell me a little about this boat, in generality?
Habitabilite, barrage, advantages, inconveniants?
Thank you in advance
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In any case, the 341 is more canvas than a first 35s5
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Having sailed both I have to say in my opinion the Hanse 341 is the better boat. It appears to be heavier construction and although depends on personal taste I prefer the internal fit out and finish on the Hanse and that is why I brought one. The self tacking jib makes it easier to handle with less crew and unless you want to use a cruising chute or spinnaker a safer option.

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What can you blame the Hanse 341?
What are these qualities?
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I heard talked about that some Hanse have rudder problems. Is the 341 in this case?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2017 at 15:05
I think that it depends on the year of manufacture. Pre 2004/5 ( i think that is the date , others will confirm)some of the rudders were made by a polish company. After that i think they were made by Jefra. Some of the earlier ones can be suspect- but not those by Jefra
There are some examples of the 341 available which can be a good purchase.
A new rudder cost me euro 3500  in August 2014 & the bearings euro 200 plus labour
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brufan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2017 at 15:14
There are 2 rudder failure reported.

For Lonlon (in french) :
Il n'y a que deux cas rapportés.  
Megawat (Hanse 371 - 2005) qui a coulé en Mer d'Irlande après arrachement du tube de jaumière.  Le safran a été récupéré et suivant l'enquête, la rupture de mèche est due à une installation non conforme après livraiosn d'un secteur de barre supplémentaire destiné au pilote.  Les efforts ont été transmis au mauvais endroit et le bateau avait beaucoup navigué (deux transats) créant une fatigue anormale sur la mèche.
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Dove II (52 pieds - approx milieu des années 2000) qui a semble avoir perdu la pelle du safran laissant la mèche et son peigne en place.  Le bateau a été abandonné en janvier 2017 à 500 miles à l'est des Antilles et il dérive depuis lors.  La perte des deux-demi profils de safran est un risque partagé par tous les safrans de ce type (soit la quasi totalité de la plaisance actuelle)
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A noter que depuis la construction des deux bateau impliqués, Hanse se fourni maintenant chez JEFA avec lequel il n'y pas de problèmes notables à condition de veiller aux phénomènes d'électrolyse de la mèche en alu.
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Ce forum reprend toutes les expériences connues sur ce sujet (mais uniquement en anglais) 
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