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Hanse 470 for offshore cruising

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Point bleu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2017 at 17:02
Hye

The boat is 2006
I Think it is one of the last built number 77 in ╔poxy and iron frame
She is well equiped with new sails, watermaker, storm sail etc
and a lot of new things.
She is ready to leave
If you are interested, send me a mail so I send you all the documents
And pictures

Best regards

Eric
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Justine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2017 at 14:08
We have a 470 but before we sailed on a 461 with friends . As they stopped manufacturing the 461 we bought a 470. These boats are alike for sailing but there is less place and strorageplace on the 470 and the length
Kitchen is more convenient.
The engine Yanmar 55cv is enough (7.5 knots at 2100 trm) ours is 3500 hrs without any problem.
The look of the 470 is nice with the open cockpit but it dangerous for children's and it is not uncommon that a wave rises on bord by back. Moreever the two backChest are really big and useful. We have still problems with holding portholes on the hull and we always look at them
Of course you need a water maker because, we have a 60 l/h and its is enough.
Hanse are good boats, well built, we really love our boat but for us we are sad that they stopped the 461 to answer to the marketing laws.
Have a good trip with your next Hanse, the other brands are only
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The 470 is a very good choice, I still have a 461 and that was superb on our journey Spain to Polynesia over 4 years.  Main difference between two is the higher quality of finish (real wood!) of 461 and there are two proper seats at the stern, one behind each wheel.  These gave you extra storage as well as much more comfort on watch.  Storage is also better. We only had one huge wave come onboard over the stern in the whole trip (North Atlantic gale), and it drained out within 30 seconds.

A/Con - we have 2 systems, one hidden inside the panelling of the main cabin, the other under the port bunk. Two x240V pumps through through-hulls in bilge.

Watermaker - Spectra Newport 80l/hour. Under the owners cabin bunk. Drew about 30A, reliable, efficient. Filters needed looking after but in tropics you get lots of microbe growth.

Autopilot - we have Simrad units plus Lewmar Mamba drive. Big beast of a motor & gearbox, handled nearly everything. Because we have solid rod steering (470 as well?) you MUST keep the ball joints and cups lubricated (marine grease) and keep an eye on the bevel gear steering gearboxes. They can lose grease and become stiff.  Easy to access above stern bunks by removing ceiling panels.

Winches - if you have electric Lewmar winches, BEWARE! They have an Italian bevel gearbox (out of a tractor) which dries out and seizes up. Every 5 years I undid our winches and worked on the two gearboxes,repacked all the grease.  If you don't it will cost you a lot of money to replace new gearbox. I also fitted a grease nipple to both for ongoing maintenance.

Sails: Most of your sailing is downwind. We had a twin headsail made in Spain before we left, we hardly used our mainsail all the way. Good speeds, little load on your boat, safe up to about 25-30 knots, then just furl in to where you are comfortable.

http://www.cruisingworld.com/double-your-downwind-fun-two-jibs

Electricity - fitted a small 6kW 2 cylinder generator. Needed care, they all do, but easy to manage.

Solar Panels - Had a large frame the width of the stern made up in Spain 45mm s/steel and mounted 2 x 250w solar panels fed through an MPPT controller into 740 aH battery bank. Covered us probably 90% of the time, only had an issue when we used the autopilot all night when weather was contrary. Same frame also held our life-raft, ready to fall straight over the side if needed.

Navigation - DO NOT TRUST your charts in and around San Blas, Panama, Columbia and Galapagos. When you reach Trinidad look in chandlers for "The Panama Cruising Guide" by Eric Bauhaus. Without it you will end up as one of the skeletons on the reefs around the San Blas Islands (up to 4 a month!) You can get a digital form of the charts that will run under CMap in Columbia from Felix Malo (find him in the market) or if you PM me I can post you a DVD with charts and you install them onto your essential laptop with a GPS dongle. This was our backup nav system.

Storage - plenty under the bunks and bilges. We carried 6 months supply. The whole boat was divided up into underfloor spaces, cupboards, under bed storage, lazarette. Every space was defined for example in the main cabin a grid of 5 wide (1,2,3,4,5 and length A,B,C,D,E,F,G). We purchased an App called My Boat which allowed us to create all these squares then list the contents inside.  Did the same for every cupboard, under every bunk etc. Food like flour we put into supermarket bags and used a bag sealing kit to add extra protection - kept everything fresh. We used sealed plastic boxes in every space, especially the bilge. It worked, we only lost a bit of flour and pasta in the ones next to the mast foot. Fuel (420l extra) was carried in those 25l square drums that can be obtained from Car wash places, farmers etc. 4 on each side tied up front (board attached to two staunchions then drums tied to this). Rest laid out in lazarette.  Still room for lots of other stuff in lazarette.  Also carried 2 x 25l petrol drums in bow anchor locker, next to the drain holes, plus 3 x 25l water drums tied to binnacle / cockpit table.

Anchor - if not already fitted, buy a 32kg Rocna, you will need it.

Other - We carried a Canon Multi printer along with plenty of cartridges. Good for scanning documents, creating documents, forms, copying all in the name of officialdom.

Food - Supplies from UK (lots of M&S), Spain, Las Palmas are safe. Cape Verdi 70/30. Trinidad 50/50 keep watch on flour, oats, cereals for Weevils. Colombia, Panama, Galapagos 20/80 enjoy your weevils. If you empty the flour into a big bowl, sit it on your cockpit table for an hour sitting in  another larger bowl of water , all the weevils will climb out and drown. Problem solved! You cook the rest, and anyway what do you think happens in every restaurant you go to from Trinidad onwards. Tahiti is safe but then you pay 5 times the cost of Panama.

Hope I covered some of the ground, enjoy the trip. It will change you, guaranteed!!




 


 
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