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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mopoulter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 June 2017 at 16:08
Furling mains are for light air regions INMHO. The cloth must be thin so furling is easy and reduces the chance of binding or jamming. If you go off shore in strong breeze the sail be ruined. If the sail jams and you can neither get out to drop or in you could be in a very situation.
So bad shape, light air sue only  and a potential safety issue  for the "convenience" of rolling up a main that can be dropped in to bag  I don't get it.  
Shoal draft means you can't point as well. Sounds to me that the 345 does not do what you want to do.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mikki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 June 2017 at 21:39
You are right. I viewed the 345 in Sweden and talked to the owner. Decided in favor of another 34' boat yr 2010. She has usual main sail 60 sq m + genoa 62 sq m. Draft 1.82 m.  Lively boat, so far quite happy Smile
 
PS: the shallow keel with furling main still unsold.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Henridg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2017 at 16:08
Hi everybody,
i'm just back from my first trip with my new H345 : more than 600 NM around Corsica.
I thougth that the boat would be slow, and i added a genoa to replace the self tacking (FCL sails)
I have been surprised by the speed even in low winds. I think that this boat is interesting (although evidently not a racer !) with standard main, self tacking and genaker. The genoa is a compromise because you may use it as self tacking when furling a few turns, but it does not add much speed.
I would not recommand the furling main, because you lose about 5 square meters, and above all the form of the sail is not good at all (i tried a H345 with furling main and decided noyt to buy one).
I have the shallow keel. The cape is 45 to 50 degrees from the Wind (with the genoa, probably better with the self tacking), but there is almost no drift, except when you have a crossing current.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rubin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2018 at 13:25
Hi everybody,
I sell Jib medium, with oriented wires, like new 105% 31.5 square meters, roller blind with vertical slats, very performing, both with light and strong wind.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mopoulter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 November 2018 at 15:31
It would be faster if you put more tension on jib and main halyards. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 November 2018 at 21:04
Fully agree with you.
As per the mainsail halyard I replaced the spinlock cam last week as said in another thread and now I should have fixed that issue.
As per the jib, it becomes absurdly tough to furl and unfurl it when I tension the halyard too hard.
I should investigate that issue, I know. Perhaps there is something wrong with the top swivel.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 November 2018 at 21:49
Originally posted by richz richz wrote:

Fully agree with you.
As per the mainsail halyard I replaced the spinlock cam last week as said in another thread and now I should have fixed that issue.
As per the jib, it becomes absurdly tough to furl and unfurl it when I tension the halyard too hard.
I should investigate that issue, I know. Perhaps there is something wrong with the top swivel.

If it helps, there is nothing to stop you easing the halyard before you furl it if you find that easier. Friction in the jib sheet could be an issue worth checking.
From your picture you are very likely to pull the bolt rope out of the bottom part of the foil. If you are not careful the foot is so slack it is being dragged aft by the jib sheet & is pulling the bolt rope aft. It may be that you also have the clew fitted on the wrong hole thus pulling the foot more than the leech.
The jib can be hard to furl if there is a lot of slack in the rig allowing the forestay to sag off . This allows the foil to bend so it does not rotate so easily.  You are probably aware that having a tight rig is essential on a Hanse. A slight pre bend in the mast may also help the baggy mainsail shape.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote StavrosNZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2018 at 02:43
Ditch the 2:1 arrangement for jib sheet and go 1:1 just tie or use soft shackle to attach jib sheet to you jib, it will be much easier to furl due to reduced friction.

A jib this small does not need 2:1 like 50' or larger does.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fendant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2018 at 04:05
I agree with Stavros.  I too had a problem furling my jib in. I needed the winch.
I ditched the 2:1 sheet solution and replaced the 12 mm sheet by a 10 mm dyneema with a spliced eye. 
Both actions allowed that I can now do the infurling by hand, easing the backstay makes this even more easier, so my wife could do it. I am also using a dyneema shackle.

Still to do is replacing the cam ( thanks for the tips here in the forum ), into a 6-10 mm. For now I leave the jib sheet on the winch to prevent slipping.
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