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    Posted: 03 April 2010 at 10:25
Hi, first trip of the year, from Punat in Croatia to Zadar. Course roughly SE so of course first day the wind was SE, from 15 to 25 knots. Got just about half way and put into Navalja at dusk, Second day the wind veered gradually to SW so had a 4 hour close hauled on the port tack to within 1 hour of Zadar with winds 9 to 15 knots. Absolutely great sail and mostly under Simrad autopilot, a great piece of kit.
However, at some stage the lower vange fitting bent and shattered and I really have no idea why. On day one, things were pretty tight and on the wind all the time so I really can't see how this can happen. Any ideas gratefully received.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Adam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 April 2010 at 16:01
The same thing happened to me. did not even notice it until we had mored for the day, happened on the second day I had the boat, no false jibs or any sudden maneuvers. Sparecraft dealer in norway blames me.



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Very curious, and thank goodness I am not alone! Nobody has offered any suggestions at all.
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also happened to me , they replaced with a new diff type.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Adam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2010 at 09:11
I replaced it with a identical one, have not happened again even in a lot rougher conditions. I believe it was a material weakness, or damage sustained to it before it was mounted on the boat. Terry, did they offer any comments as to why it might have happened? Do you have any pictures? I'm still claiming a refund under warranty, so any further evidence would help me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Terry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2010 at 09:30
I think because it was cast not forged, can't remember which way round.

but they made a new one for me and it was a little different.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Timeout Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2010 at 13:14
I had a 430 a couple of weeks last year. The same happened to me. I don't know the reason, but we had heavy wind from behind.
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I can only think that if there were no uncontrolled manoeuvers,
it could be that the wang has hard in, (black down haul on photo) to sail close hauled, and then on following leg, reach/broad reach, the mainsail  sheet was hardened, but not the wang. this would bring force and pressure on the wang fitting.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote landlocked Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 2010 at 03:59
This is really puzzling.  It seems to me that you can't really put much compression force on the vang, and tightening the vang can only put a tension force on the mast fitting, which wouldn't bend it like that.
 
If the boom was allowed to swing far enough forward the mast would eventually interfere with the movement of the vang and that could bend the fitting, but it looks to me like the boom would bump into the shrouds before this happens right?
 
I certainly hope not to figure this out "the hard way" Confused
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Hi

 

I have tried in on a H470 but it is the same in Principe

The problem is if the vang is pressed together from tension on the mainsheet

( and the vang is fully compressed) it will bend the fitting like on the picture.

Move the vang 4-5 cm more backwards on the boom so it can go further down

You can ask your rigger or Dealer for help

 

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