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    Posted: 06 September 2015 at 15:56
my jib furler under the deck is very  very hard . have you an idea?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iemand Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 September 2015 at 16:04
Is it Facnor or Furlex TD?
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It is a Facnor furler , I have to wrap the winch . it is just under the deck that he return pulleys ?
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I have 2010 400 with furlex under deck fuller and it also was very difficult to furl, the problem is made up of a number of fixes as follows:

1. rope exists the furling drum inside the anchor locker and runs through a footblock thats bolted to side of the anchor locker. Problem is the angle of the footblock is not correct and you get serious resistance. I unbolted the footblock and mounted a folding padeye instead, there is an aluminium plate moulded into the hull lay up in this area so you can drill and tap into if needed. Then fit 50mm ball bearing block onto the folding payee, you now have a block that will orientate correctly to the rope angle.

2. don't run your furling line under the stanchion bases (factory setup) looks sleek but lots of resistance, on my 400 each stanchion base is approx 45mm wide and there is 7 of them including side entry gates which = lots of friction, instead i fitted factor stainless bulls eyes on each stanchion above stanchion base = less friction.

3. get rid of the 2:1 arrangement on your job sheet it creates huge resistance when trying to furl. On a 400 the jib is only 35m2 its a small sail area, i replaced the 12mm factory job sheet with 10mm dyneema one and run the sheet through the block on the self tacker track and either tie it directly to the clew board or in my case, i spliced a loop and use a soft shackle to attach it to the jib clew board.

Based on these changes i can furl my jib by hand from the cockpit.

NEVER USE A WINCH, RISK OF DAMAGING FURLER, FORESTAY ETC IS HIGH.


Edited by StavrosNZ - 07 September 2015 at 02:47
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Hi Anemon,
how old your Facnor Furler is?
I've had the same Problem. My Dealer told me, that there was an upgrade of the rotating parts to my existing ones! My Furler was out of 2008! They had change the Swivel on Top and the drum on the bottom. Don't asked about the Price Dead!!


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Stephen:

What do you mean by "factor stainless bulls eyes".  

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thanks for the answers
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Hi Dave, sorry Facnor, stanchion mounted bulls eyes, these are all stainless round bulls eye that bolts onto the stanchion, much less friction.
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I took Harken ballbearing ones, just perfect!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sea-U Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 September 2015 at 10:56
I have got another problem with my Facnor furler. It is working ok now.
But when I hoisted the sail this spring, it almost stuck. Had to use a lot of force to get the sail up.
I did not investigate it then ... should have... Ouch
 
Anyone familiar with this? I hope I manage to lower the sail.
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