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I sail my 370 a lot of times (90%) singlehanded. Even in stronger winds no problems. But it took some time to figure out how to handle the boat:

1. Try always to move with the boat. So the wind cannot pick the bow!
2. When berthing (or going thru a lock) i always use at first the windward sternline. It is important that the berth is a little bit longer than your boat. In 99% it is the case! If not i use the clamp in the middle of the boat.
3. When this windward sternline is fixed, nothing can happen anymore. I use the motor as my "second" virtual line. Just turn the steeringwheel to the wind and push forward only so much, that the boat will not drift away. Than i walk around the boat push the fenders outside and fix the bowlines and at the end the second sternline.

This works perfect, even with strong crosswinds!

BTW: Many people tend to use the motor with not enough power. It helps a lot to use the motor with strong short pushes! This way you can hold the boat on the position without drifting away. You will wonder how much effect a strong short burst will have!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peter Russell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2018 at 16:47
Do you really mean the stern line?  Surely with the stern line on there is nothing to stop the bow blowing off (unless you have a good bow thruster).
When I come in short handed I use a mid-ship spring line onto the outermost cleat on the pontoon.  From there using the engine as the "stern line" turning so that the stern comes into the pontoon.  On my 370 the bow does tend to swing into the pontoon even when powering off so I know to fender up the bow.  As you say, once this is done you can attach and adjust lines easily, finally turning off the engine. 
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Yes: Stern line (Rear end of the boat).
I do not have a bow truster!

try it! it works as our boats have a pretty wide ass!
Midship spring works aswell, but not so good short handed!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2018 at 18:43
I agree with Peter Blake if the Pontoon is long enough. When i went through the Calledonian canal ( twice) single handed there were 30 locks & most of them I put a long stern line & left the engine in tickover to pull the boat in to the wall. One can then fix a bow line (not always needed) at leisure
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peterr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 April 2018 at 08:32
Originally posted by Mad Mo Mad Mo wrote:

Dear Peter,
 
I find it most important to do any maneuver very very slowly and in a way that you can stop the boat at any time fully controlled. This means - like already said above - that you should always head with the stern into the wind. By that means you can always keep the boat in position for as long as you want, for example to clear the lines or get one around a pile. Insofar I disgree with the above comment recommending to go into a box with speed. If this goes wrong you damage you boat and others. 
 
 
 
BR Moritz
 
But the problem in real life is often that it is impossible to keep the stern into the Wind and when the boat slows Down it drifts very fast.
 
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Originally posted by Peter-Blake Peter-Blake wrote:

I sail my 370 a lot of times (90%) singlehanded. Even in stronger winds no problems. But it took some time to figure out how to handle the boat:

1. Try always to move with the boat. So the wind cannot pick the bow!
2. When berthing (or going thru a lock) i always use at first the windward sternline. It is important that the berth is a little bit longer than your boat. In 99% it is the case! If not i use the clamp in the middle of the boat.
3. When this windward sternline is fixed, nothing can happen anymore. I use the motor as my "second" virtual line. Just turn the steeringwheel to the wind and push forward only so much, that the boat will not drift away. Than i walk around the boat push the fenders outside and fix the bowlines and at the end the second sternline.

This works perfect, even with strong crosswinds!

BTW: Many people tend to use the motor with not enough power. It helps a lot to use the motor with strong short pushes! This way you can hold the boat on the position without drifting away. You will wonder how much effect a strong short burst will have!
 
Peter Blake
 
I think i will start to practice your approach. it seems to me that it includes the essence of all the very good and kind advice i have received. And if it is possible with the 370 it must be possible with the 350.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 350Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 April 2018 at 10:33
Whilst I fully subscribe to the maxim “slow is pro”, the most important issue is to maintain control of the boat. This can be done either by using ropes or engine or a combination of the two; you should not be using more speed than necessary to maintain control, but you do have to use enough.

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