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    Posted: 04 September 2012 at 12:52
I’m going to plan a trip to UK/London next summer – my wife and I want to go to London on the shortest way (but I don’t like to sail at night). I never have been in the UK with a boat. It’s a shame but I have never sailed on the North Sea or the Atlantic before, too. I was sailing in the Mediterranean Sea ( Croatia/ Italy) and in the Baltic Sea.

So my question to you, is there any nautical almanac or publication worth/necessary to buy, which I will understand ( only poor English knowledge). Is there any regulation by the British Authorities to enter the UK? I didn’t find it in the internet.
I would like to sail from Amsterdam to Vlissingen over Dunkirk and crossing the channel (where ? )on the shortest way but then…… how would you travel to London – by the way we have more than 3 weeks time.

I will be pleased to get any information form you. Thanks a lot. – Sorry again for my poor English knowledge

axel



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Hi Axel,

if you want to write in german than send me a pm

1. The best book is the reeds nautical almanac 2013 (sorry only in english, but all information you need) sample 2012: http://www.amazon.de/Reeds-Nautical-Almanac-2012-Marina/dp/1408140543
2. Your trip Amsterdam (Sixhaven or Ijmuiden) to Dünkirchen is ok. But if you only want to try daytrips, than start from Ijmuiden to Scheveningen than go to Oostende than Dünkirchen. From Dünkirchen you cross the VTG to Dover or Ramsgate.  These are all not so long trips.
3. Brtiain is part of the EU (it still is, yes! But who knows what happens next year....)so you just sail there, just like sailing to denmark on the baltic. Be aware to fuel up in netherlands as in Britain you get red diesel. This could be a problem later, whe you come back.
4. We also plan a trip to London next summer, so may be we weill meet somewhere.
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Hi Peter,

you´ve got a p.m. from me.

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Axel,
Just a thought, to help you plan the trip and to help you deal with the current regulations, my suggestion would be to join the Cruising Association . Website is www.cruising.org.uk overseas membership is about £ 80.00 a year, and they have local representatives in most , if not all European countries, they will be more than happy to help you plan your journey and also be able to search out all the necessary regulation that need to be complied with. Also when you sail up the thames you can moor in Limehouse Basin Marina in London at a discounted rate also there HQ is just at the side of the marina, which has a good bar lovely restaurant and just around the or we a Gordon Ramsey restaurant.
The cruising Association has i think the world largest colletion of maritime books charts, etc. that are in private hands in its library, these are available to borrow for members. 
Also if you want a break from staying on your boat whilst it is in the marina, members are allowed to say in one of there rooms for i think about £25.00 per night Bed and breakfast, and for London these are amazing prices.... 
And no I am not selling the CA, I am just an ordinary member and I use the rooms there to stay oin London. 
The information you get I think will be " staight from the horses mouth" as they say...Big smile
The association has been going for over 100 yrs and our patron is Robin Knox Johnson.


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Hi Dave,
thanks for your information, I have found a lot of informations there - so I have just joined the CA.

Greetings from Stuttgart

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As a sort of local to the Thames I will try to give some input, however I have never sailed all the way to London.
The trip up and down is tide dependant, and there are not too many places to stay.
There are a couple of forum boats that live at Chatham, which is on the kent side of the Thames and a natural hop from Ramsgate, if thay do not appear with local info I will kick them into life.
My Knowlage is on the North side, Harwich is plesent and the closest to the Europe main land, a long day can get you to Ostend or Vleshing, however I find over night easier, If you do aim for Harwich it is all weather and very easy to get in , the town key on the river has visitors berths and if you want rural, on the other side of the river Shotley marina will always put you up, after that the rivers Orwell and Stour can be fun for a day or two, a place called Pin Mill is a classic English Pub on the River also a town called Ipswich has several old streets.
Heading from Harwich to London is a two day trip or more and again no easy places to stop as lots of sand banks; but there are several places you can go if you have time.
There is an English pilot guide called East Coast Rivers by Janet Harber, this covers the area plus a bit more.
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Simon,
Good to hear from you, are you in UK? Are you going to Southampton BS
Yes, Charles Pegram, would be a good source of info
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Hi Simon,
thank´s a lot for your information. Now I will have a look at every place you were talking about, and I have never heard and seen before. I am very excited to learn to know many of these places - especcialy the pubs.

Axel
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Gertha,

A small correction: Pin Mill is a place near Ipswich, the pub is called 'The Butt & Oyster'.

An episode of the British TV series  'Lovejoy' was fimed there but, if memory serves, the pub's name in the programme was 'The Three Ducks'.

I sat outside the pub many moons ago with my father watching as the tide came in and quite quickly half-filled a car someone had left parked on the slip after launching their boat.

Happy Daze !

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I have sailed to London many times from the Medway. It is quite easy. If you are going there from Ramsgate, you will have to push against the tide for five or so hours and pick up a favourable tide just before reaching the Medway River. Then you carry this favourable tide all the way to London, arriving an hour or so before high water.

My first choice of a marina would always be St Katherine's because it is right next to Tower Bridge and within easy walking distance of many London sites. However, you will normally have to pre-book to get in.

The Port of London Authority have a website from which you can download their guide to the river which will give you all the information you need for navigating it. Generally speaking, you must keep to your starboard side, so that would be the north bank going to London and the south bank coming back. The only real hazard is the Thames Tidal Barrier and you will need to call them for permission on London VTS before arriving, in each direction, and they will tell you which section to pass through. You should be under engine with sails down by then. The guide explains all this.

For the channel crossing, I would cross from Nieuport or Dunkirk to Ramsgate. If you choose to go to Harwich, however, you will probably have to break your journey between there and London.

If you want to break your journey from Ramsgate up to London, tuck in to the River Medway and pick up a mooring at Queenborough. This has the advantage of being able to take the tide all the way to Queenborough from Ramsgate, then the next day take the tide all the way from Queenborough to London.

I'll try to dig out some actual timings from my log and post them.

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