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STIX SSS and AVS for Hanse 470

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Topic: STIX SSS and AVS for Hanse 470
Posted By: MikeBradley
Subject: STIX SSS and AVS for Hanse 470
Date Posted: 11 January 2018 at 19:49
Hi does anyone have the following information

SSS Base Value
STIX Value

For a Hanse 470 standard keel,

We are entering the Triangle Race a double handed race from Torquay to Kinsale then to Treguier then back to Torquay a 620 mile race and need the information above.

Has anyone had their Hanse 470 rated for IRC we are about to get ours rated but would be interested to see what these yachts rated

Thanks in advance


Posted By: JonB
Date Posted: 11 January 2018 at 22:20

Have you enquired with the Hanse guys at Hamble point marina ? 

Jon B

Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 12 January 2018 at 08:19
Hi Mike,
here are some figures out of my ORC-certification. But the boat have a draft off 2.6m. Take attention on that....

Sail Nr GER 7473
GPH 565.9

Class HANSE 470 E
Builder HANSE
Series 01/2006
Age Date 03/2008
Age Allowance 0.357%
Installation Strut
Ty pe Folding 3 or 4 blades
PRD 0.380
PBW 0.120
PIPA 0.0040
Displacement 13,717kg
LOA 14.200m
MB 4.454m
Draf t 2.589m
IMS Div ision Cruiser/Racer
Fwd Accom. Yes
Fiber Rigging No
Crew Arm Ex
Dynamic All. 0.225%
Construction Solid
Aramid Core No
Carbon Rudder No
Light Stanchions No
IMSL 13.003m
RL 9.962m
VCGD 0.069m
VCGM 0.210m
Sink 33.95kg/mm
WS 44.64mē
LSM0 13.168m Displacement/Length ratio 6.0076
Water Ballast 0 Trim Tab No
Time On Distance 550.6 621.5
Time On Time 1.0898 1.0861
Triple Number Low Medium High Low Medium High
Time on Distance 652.5 499.5 446.5 851.6 624.1 540.6
Time on Time 1.0345 1.3513 1.5117 0.7926 1.0816 1.2487

best regards

Hanse 470e #165

Posted By: MikeBradley
Date Posted: 24 January 2018 at 21:20
Have call the guys at gamble point said they would email me some details but still waiting my try and call them again as it's been over a week

Posted By: JonB
Date Posted: 25 January 2018 at 09:42
They could've been involved in the London Boat show of course.  I've two owners next to me on the hard I'll ask the question when I next see them.

Jon B

Posted By: JonB
Date Posted: 25 January 2018 at 09:51
Practical Boat Owner did a five-page article on the Hanse story which included them in the 2014 ARC event of which eleven Hanses took part, the 470 was the top performer finishing third in class.  Of course, it doesn't say whether the owners like others, were using it to cross the Atlantic in company or had competition in mind.

So another source may be is the organisers of the ARC event.

Jon B

Posted By: JonB
Date Posted: 25 January 2018 at 10:11
Mike, there's an article dated 25th January 2009 on this forum that may answer all your queries I've copied it below:-

Sounds like fun!!
Well if it is of any help the AVS of a 470 taking in to consideration top weights of 32kgs for roller reefing headsail and 7.5kgs for Radar on first spreaders and CBD of 0.75cm (estimated my me while boat was out of the water as Hanse couldn't help at the time so that isn't a builder exact number) is 119.7 which gives a final category of Cat 2 under the MCA stability allocation.
On STOPS it rates 45.14, 50.61 and 58.08 for numerals 1 thru 3 respectively
On SSS (which is referenced in table 3) the 470 rates 45.2. Note Cat 1 base value is now 35.
On the STIX, the normal keel rates 41-38.3, so again you shouldn't have an issue considering Cat A minimum is 32.
Finally, on AVS the min for Cat A min is circa 106 so 119.7 should be fine.
But to be honest I have looked at the new IRC form and can't see anything much different to previous years, except the sponsor?  If you need any of those measurements I have them.



Jon B

Posted By: MikeBradley
Date Posted: 25 January 2018 at 22:06
Very much appreciated

Regards mike

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