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samuel
Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 26 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2681 |
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Charles
Sound advice but to be honest i always need a days rest after a trip Even though i had to motor the whole way ( head winds even when i turned the corner)i am v tired I have not looked at the weather yet but need to get fuel etc Re the saildrive- yes the oil is milky I will buy an extractor in Cherbourg plus some oil & do regular changes The specified oil is 15-w-40 I wonder if a thicker oil might help reduce the effect of water emulsifying the oil If so what grade should i ask for Does anyone know? Does anyone have any ideas - other than lifting & paying a small fortune & spending lots of time waiting I will have to motor a lot- particularly the Cally canal section |
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Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex
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holby
Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 18 February 2006 Location: Isle of Man Status: Offline Points: 2287 |
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Ah Admiral Tight Wad, fancy hiding just because you are concerned about the amount of whisky you may have to give out... I bet you scoot around UK hoping not to meet anybody just incase you have to fork out for a round ....
On a more serious note Take care dude... I agree with Charles on the method of checking your oil.. I usually do this most years... and funnily enough I had one year when I thought there was some milkyness, and I kept an eye on it and it did not show again. Yes your right with the oil 15-w-40, it is the same as the engine.... It was suggested by a Volvo dealer to you synthetic oil of another grade and I canna remember what that was I will check it out and get back to you.. Usually tho' if you go against the spec it throws up another problem.. but I will chek it out for you as there is a dealer 4 miles from where I live. BUT it will cost you a few drams and for you to fly your burgee all the time for 3 months...... hahah |
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Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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holby
Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 18 February 2006 Location: Isle of Man Status: Offline Points: 2287 |
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oh and on another note to make sure you can afford some whisky, why don't you use the Forth and union canal... about 35 miles long, for me its about £45 for the crossing including taking your mast down and putting up again... also for me it would be exciting as my draft would allow me to use the Falkirk rotating Boat lift into Edinburgh city....
Dave So this way less motoring and cheaper motoring across UK as its only 35 miles long |
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Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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CharlesP
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That's good positive thinking Dave. Are you still coming to Scilly this year?
Charles |
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holby
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I am hoping so after the Commonwealth Games, as I have been invited to join the commonwealth flotilla into Glasgow with DD, so I am looking at trying to get down from their...
It has put a spoke in the wheel in either the Scillies early on or getting to the Shetlands..... Those where the two choices this year depending on the weather..... Will keep you posted.... My boss is putting me under pressure to go there, but my biggest worry is that I cannot just go there and leave DD there as this is what I do in Scotland... but I could I suppose pop back to the mainland... Dave Edited by holby - 02 June 2014 at 23:12 |
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samuel
Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 26 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2681 |
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Dave Re the oil(not the whisky) that would be useful info I normally use a premium grade oil but if a synthetic oil resists emulsification that might help A small amount of water in the oil on what is a less stressed gearbox( as opposed to say a car) should be ok for a while so long as the oil retains its lubrication qualities Edited by samuel - 03 June 2014 at 07:15 |
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Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex
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samuel
Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 26 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2681 |
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I suppose if i sailed round the top -where few Hanse's dare to tread -that might be an option Crikey - if i bump in to one of you lot you are going to drink me dry just for the fun of watching me squirm Edited by samuel - 03 June 2014 at 07:14 |
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Martin&Rene
Vice Admiral Joined: 06 December 2009 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 833 |
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I am not certain the comments on the oil are correct. As there are bevel gears in the saildrive unit you need a very good lubricating oil as there is more of a sliding action than just the rolling action on a standard spur gear. The manual I have states an API 4L or 5L grade which is a much thicker oil than the engine oil. I found it useful to warm the oil when you are filling the saildrive.
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Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout, normally based in Scotland
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Wayne's World
Admiral Joined: 18 July 2012 Location: Cruising Status: Offline Points: 1108 |
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Samuel, I think Martin is correct in saying the loss of the oils properties due to water contamination will cause premature wear to the gears in the gear box but the more damaging effect is on the bearings. Apparently, according to a maintenance engineer friend, the hard facing on the bearings is, fairly quickly, damaged by corrosion caused by the salt water. The bearings will then relatively quickly wear. This damage leads to other effects like increased friction and heat build up and can cause a catastrophic failure rather than just premature wear of the gears. Certainly the gear box "first -aid" when you discover water in the gear oil is to change the oil but finding the cause, fixing the cause and assessing the damage should be done quickly. This is likely going to require the boat being slipped/lifted. If you found the cause eg leaking heat exchanger and fixed the problem and took an oil sample which did not show elevated levels of wear metals from bearings then the gear box may be OK and you could continue your holiday. If you can not find the leak and water continues to get into the oil then pulling the boat out sooner rather than later would be the preferred option IMHO. Good luck with this problem.
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Wayne W
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samuel
Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 26 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2681 |
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I have now reached Cherbourg so am waiting until tuesday to meet engineer with intention of lift out. I may as well bite the bullet & sail without the constant worry
Re the oil i have spoken to the uk agents- Volspec- & they tell me that Volvo have changed the oil spec as 15 w 40 is too thick. Volvo now specify automatic transmission fluid which os thinner It appears that thick oil collects on to the cintered clutch plates & damages them My cousin found me a supplier of oil that still works in water. Trouble is that it is too thick for the saildrive Volvo technician in uk told me that i may have caused the leak by using a copper washer on the drain plug. He said that whatever i do i should always use the neoprene washers. He said that it is quite possible that seals are ok but plug is leaking. He suggested sitting against a wall & drying out & sorting the plug out & trying it first Trouble is that if it does not work i will have left cherbourg & may not be in a place with such good facilities Just hope work can be done asap |
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