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    Posted: 26 September 2017 at 14:34

My Hanse 375 is now 7 years old  and the original navy blue gel coat is badly faded and oxidized despite multiple compounding and waxing each season.  I am planning to have the full repainted this winter and wondering what recommendations any Hanse owners have. How long did your original gel coat last?  What product was used to repaint the hull?  Did you do a clear coat as well?  Right now I am leaning towards Awlgrip, but researching other products including Alexseal. 

 
Additionally, I am seriously considering replacing the interior cabin sole with a new teak & holly veneer flooring.  I have been very dissatisfied with the poor quality flooring that Hanse used in 2010.  Has anyone had similar issues with their cabin sole cracking/breaking (particularly around the access covers?  Has anyone replaced their floor, and would you mind sharing your experience and pics?
 
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I own a 2010 350 and have the same issues with the floor. I already placed studs underneath the floor to make the construction tougher. Almost all the access hatches have been destroyed during time.

Interesting to find out what others have done. But indeed the compound which have been used for the flooring is poor quality.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jracoffman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2017 at 15:44

Two years ago, I ordered additional flooring from Hanse, and had a carpenter make new access hatches to replace the ones that had become soft/brittle and broken.  In retrospect, I think that was a total waste of time and money, and think its time to replace the whole floor. 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JUTTER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2017 at 22:28
Hi James,

I could almost copy the first part of your post! 
The dark grey gelcoat of my 2010 Hanse 350 has badly faded, especially over the last two years. The boat was on fresh water until I bought her in 2015 and moved her to salt water. I don't know for sure if moving her to salt water might have accelerated the fading. 
There is a lot of information on this forum about this common issue with dark gelcoat fading. The same as you, I decided to have the hull painted in the coming winter. 
After a lot of research and expert advice I am still in doubt between the base coat/clearcoat system of Alexseal HS and the Topcoat system of AwLgrip or AlexSeal, both nearly similar. Although slightly leaning towards the clear coat/basecoat of Alexseal. 
On the other hand I am glad to say: there is definitely no issue about the inner cabin floor of my 2010 Hanse 350.

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Hi James,

I know the feeling - our dark grey 2006 400e looked awful after a month or so - despite a lot of fine grinding, buffing and waxing, so my dilemma was the same as yours - what could I do? I contacted a fibre glass expert and his assessment was either painting or wrapping. I choose the latter - as the first boat in our region of Denmark, but based on the assumption that what works for VOR boats also works for a Hanse in Danish waters.

We chose a slightly darker grey metallic wrapping material - and it looks amazing still after 2 seasons: same colour, no buffing/waxing (only rinse with clean water/autoshampoo), and no scratches/blemishes, loose edges - still as good as new.

The wrapping material is 3M and comes with an 8 year warranty on colour. And the price: approx. 1/4 of a paintjob - and there was no need to unstep the mast - everything was done on the hard at my local marina.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rubato Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2017 at 18:26
Peter, thanks for the information on the wrap method. I have a feeling this is going to gain in popularity. Just a note on the gel coat oxidization - it isn't just the dark colours that are a problem, my light blue gel coat has suffered the same issue for year...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jracoffman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2017 at 19:51
Thanks all, anyone in the US tried the wrap yet?  I have not seen any boats that I know of wrapped or heard of any yards offering it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peter Russell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 September 2017 at 20:22
I've given up on my gel coat - apparently Trabbi Blue - never has looked anything less than a mess after the first season (2008 model).  I'm considering repainting in due course.
On the other hand my cabin sole is in good condition despite having been flooded to the floorboards once.
I've looked at vinyl wrap, but I think this is too fragile for my method of docking 😉!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vertigo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2017 at 12:12
Have exactly same issues with Vertigo, 375 #805 Dark Grey. After one other boat ramming ours at the back, we took this as opportunity to get a new paint which was perfectly executed by Wrede in Kappeln. 
Before no chance to get the Grey to work, despite polishing every year. The shadow sides were fine, but port side at the front the sun was too strong. A big difference, we are very happy. 
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Cabin floor is also a problem, nothing broken yet but clearly very weak, if you drop anything it will damage the floor easily. I'd be very interested to hear how much effort this was if anyone did this already and how the results look like!
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