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    Posted: 15 November 2017 at 22:43
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I'm looking to replace the recessed cabin lights on my Hanse 400e.
The problem I'm having is that all the compatible lights I'm finding don't have an integrated on/off switch.

Has anyone had any luck finding replacement lights with the on/off switch or perhaps a push on/off lens switch?

LED would be ideal, but I'll even take the old halogen style and replace the bulbs after the fact.

Thanks again for any and all help,


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Our 385 came with Cabin of Demark push on/off lens recessed LED lights.  The internal switch wasn't well suited for the marine environment and became difficult to operate over the years.  The model installed from the factory was 5581ALS (brushed aluminum with switch soft white).  I replaced them with the non-switch version 5581AL (soft white) and drilled and installed a small rocker switch next to each one like (https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/round-on-on-mini-rocker-switch-16-amps-at-12-volts.html).  

I ordered the lights from Calibra Marine in Southampton, UK and shipped to the US.  I highly recommend the non-switched version.   They come in various sizes from 55mm (2.1") hole and larger.

Hella also makes good ones and I would have gone with these if I wasn't matching other Cabin of Demark lights on the boat.  http://www.hellamarine.com/en/products/interior-exterior-lamps/euroled-75/.  Defender Marine sells them.





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I found some LED lamps in a boat store that looked exactly like the originals. They had both with and without switch. Quite expensive thow.
Maybe just ask in the store to get in the ones with switch.

That switch should be quite easy to replace, by the way. If that is what is broken.
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Originally posted by sflier sflier wrote:

... I replaced them with the non-switch version 5581AL (soft white) and drilled and installed a small rocker switch next to each one like...

Thank you sflier

That's actually one of the options I was considering but didn't like the idea of a separate switch; purely from an aesthetic point of view... I might have to reconsider!

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Originally posted by Sea-U Sea-U wrote:

I found some LED lamps in a boat store that looked exactly like the originals. They had both with and without switch. Quite expensive thow.
Maybe just ask in the store to get in the ones with switch.

That switch should be quite easy to replace, by the way. If that is what is broken.

Thank you Sea-U

Glad you managed to find them.  I've looked in both online and brick-and-mortar stores... no luck so far.

Yes, you are correct, they are reasonably easy to repair - I've actually repaired 3 of them using mini toggles I found at Radio Shack.  That said, I've been less than happy with the various LED bulbs I've tried to replace the G4 halogen bulbs; some have been working great, others died within a few weeks and others flicker like crazy!  I noticed that the ones in the 7 "reading lamps" are all doing great and thought that perhaps I'd be better off outright replacing the recessed lights with factory built LED lights - we'll see!  

Anyway, thanks!


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Originally posted by S/V Rocinante S/V Rocinante wrote:

I've been less than happy with the various LED bulbs I've tried to replace the G4 halogen bulbs; some have been working great, others died within a few weeks and others flicker like crazy! 


I've successfully replaced the halogen with LED in my 400e, no flicker, no failures, have worked fantastic for years now. Where did you get your replacement LED disks and what was the spec?

Go with a reputable source like this: https://www.doctorled.com/store/G4-MR11-SMD-LED-Disk?search=G4

and make sure that the spec is similar to this: Internal circuitry provides constant current draw regardless of voltage fluctuations from the source (10 to 18 VDC for 12V models), meaning no flickering and longer LED life.

If you go with cheap China knock offs they fail quickly and because they aren't regulated the brightness changes with battery voltage and can flicker with then engine is running, etc....
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Hi all
I have changed all my internal halagen bulbs for L,E,D discs purchased from Searolf in the Uk years ago no problems, however the little toggle switches are a pain, more so with the halagen bulbs because of the higher current draw.
You can fix them, it's a bit fiddly but take it apart using a tiny screw driver to lift the tabs on the sides and pull the two halfs apart, inside there is only one tiny rocker plate scratch the contact faces which will be burnt black and reassemble ,make sure you put the rocker plate in the right way round and it will be good for another year, takes about ten minutes start to finish
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Originally posted by bovine bovine wrote:

however the little toggle switches are a pain, more so with the halagen bulbs because of the higher current draw....

Very true, since I upgraded to the LED none have failed.
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Originally posted by Rubato Rubato wrote:

...If you go with cheap China knock offs they fail quickly and because they aren't regulated the brightness changes with battery voltage and can flicker with then engine is running, etc....

Thank you for the link Rubato

I definitely went the cheap route!
Although most of them are working well, I might have to reconsider if they continue to fail.

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Hi,

I replaced my standard Hanse halogen bulbs with switches to a Prebit LED System with Master (Switch) and Slave LEDs. Prebit offers aswell the LEDs with withe and red light. Enclose you find the link http://www.prebit.de/dmdocuments/produktflyer/DE_LED_EB12-3_Ma-Sl.pdf

The Prebit LED are working and looking perfekt.

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