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JonB View Drop Down
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    Posted: 07 February 2019 at 16:14
I happen today to have a chat with a guy from the original supplier of the sails here in the UK, the Dacron material.

NK is about 8 yrs old now and I managed to trash the jib, or rather Mother Nature did by unpicking the sail tie I left on it one weekend.  Anyway, she turned the bottom third into shred and snapped the horseshoe in half.  Nothing else was scratched!

So clearly a replacement needed.

What was interesting in the conversation I had, is that the original supplier now believes that Dacron is not strong enough to take the stresses the 470 puts through them, in fact, he suggested that they would probably be out of shape within the third year and of course the reduction in power that would cause.

My thoughts are, has everyone else changed their sails over to a more modern material?

I've gone back to the sailmaker that produced my Code 0 and the price I paid was probably the deposit required from the original provider.  Now obviously it depends on what you want from your boat but are we being baffled by science!
Jon B
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pieterman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2019 at 19:20
A strong material more modern than dacron is the X-drive material from UK Sails. For my H315 I chose the X-drive silver, which is more cruising than racing. I know the forces will be greater on your sail, but maybe this is a good idea worth looking at.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kipwrite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2019 at 19:32
I installed a 105 Genoa made out of Hydranet on my 505. 
Nice sail. Have maybe 6000 miles on this sail and itís holding up nicely.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 415 Singapore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2019 at 08:28
Hi Kipwrite, glad to hear that you are still pleased with your Hydranet Genoa, we have just ordered a main and a jib made from it. Our original Elvstrom FCL laminate sails delaminated badly after 5 years on the tropics. 
Hopefully the new sails will last well and at least we canít become an un-cleanable mould factory again!
All the best
Paul
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