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    Posted: 06 September 2017 at 03:34
My main halyard is slipping in the clutch. I have replaced the clutch cam and the line is fresh. I'm not sure how to solve this. Going to the cam for the next smaller line size doesn't seem like it would work I don't think the clutch would close.. I don't think the sheaves would work with a larger diameter line. I'm curious how others have addressed the issue.
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Hi, we had the same issue when we got Night Train, the dealer replaced the main halyard with a 14mm one, this worked fine but was far too big for the job. We then replaced the 10-14 mm cam for a smaller one and put the old halyard back in, which works fine although little bit harder to lift the cam when you drop the sail. For the jib we replaced the cam too and put in a smaller diameter dyneema halyard which seems the best option. We will do the same with the main halyard once it needs replacing.
There have been quite a few posts about this and others have sleeved the halyard where it goes through the cam.
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I had the slipping halyard problem on my previous boat a 445.

I now have a smaller 315 and had two of the Ronstan Constrictor halyard clutches installed. 

 Halyard slipping is now a thing of the past!!

Here is a link:  https://www.ronstan.us/marine5/constrictor.asp


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 September 2017 at 08:30
I have 8mm dynema halyards & have just threaded a number ( about 12) of lengths of thick whipping twine down between the core & the outer sheath of the rope to make it much thicker. Seems to have worked so far
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This is a common problem with multiple posts.  I also had my dealer replace the cams for the main and jib for the smaller 6-10 mm cams.  Both these halyards are dyneema 10mm.
I had to fit the new cams myself which wasn't too big a job.
Delighted with the result.  Main in particular has a much better shape now I can tighten the luff.

I am finding that my 12mm braid on braid jib sheet has lots of friction and can be difficult to furl and unfurl.  I am planning to replace this with a 10mm dyneema line.  Does anyone have experience of this?
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We suffered same problem with main, I think everyone that has the performance pack added with FCL sails and dyneema halyard does. Best solution is to change the cams to 10mm, I upgraded to ceramic and works perfectly, I intend to do the same for the Jib this winter.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Simon L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2017 at 12:31

Same problem on the main halyard.  We upgraded to ceramic cams, which was much better but it still slipped when we put in the first reef.

After a "cutting the halyard in half by mistake" issue, we upgraded to a decent dyneema rope (rather than cruising dyneema), and that seems to have fixed it.
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