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    Posted: 28 September 2018 at 15:06
Iíve spent most of the season on anchor, rarely pick up a mooring ball, and as I type, Iím pinned down with gusts coming in around 25-30knts.

Iíve always noticed that I seem to swing a lot more than other boats.   Not around the anchor circle but mostly in place. The boat will point right, then left, then right, left....

Other boats donít seem to swing nearly as much. Maybe it just seems like I swing a lot from the perspective of being on board.

Do you notice excessive swinging?

I typically use about 6:1 scope. I shoot for 5:1, then drop a little extra for good measure, then connect my anchor bridal...

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I've found the same with my 415. I've read elsewhere that this is common to higher-performance hull shapes, with fin keels and spade rudders.

I've been able to dampen my swinging a bit by locking the rudder wheels hard to one side or the other.
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Rob,

In strong winds we often get a swing of about 130 degrees. As Scott mentioned it appears a lot of newer boats swing a lot at anchor. We ended up buying a Anchor Sail from the US which reduces the swing arc by at least 50%. This also means there is less snatching of the chain and anchor. The one we bought is called a FinDelta and was supplied by Banner Bay Marine. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gale Force Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2018 at 07:11
Recently spent a night at anchor with gusts unto 35 knots  and I would say we were swinging wildly while others seemed quite calm around us.We could really feel it down below and especially when the direction changed.However the anchor held fast all night.The experience really gave us a big boost in confidence

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Originally posted by Relentless Relentless wrote:

Iíve spent most of the season on anchor, rarely pick up a mooring ball, and as I type, Iím pinned down with gusts coming in around 25-30knts.

Iíve always noticed that I seem to swing a lot more than other boats.   Not around the anchor circle but mostly in place. The boat will point right, then left, then right, left....

Other boats donít seem to swing nearly as much. Maybe it just seems like I swing a lot from the perspective of being on board.

Do you notice excessive swinging?

I typically use about 6:1 scope. I shoot for 5:1, then drop a little extra for good measure, then connect my anchor bridal...


More swing on anchor is feature of higher-performance flat bottom hull shapes, with fin keels and spade rudders, not a bug :) High freeboards are also benefit for more swing. Thats why all Hanse designs swing more than others :)
You can reduce swing fixing rudder in neutral position. We never used anchor sail, but interested in experinces. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Relentless Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2018 at 14:19
That is very interesting Wayne!!! I havenít seen one of those yet. Thank you for sharing!!
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Hi,
We have a 415 and sitting in 30 knot gusts we ride up on the anchor, heal violently, then repeat the process on the other tack. Not easy sleeping.
I have a 2.5ft diameter conical drogue with a stainless steel wire hoop at the opening, its designed to limit speed. 
I hang this off the stern cleat about 1m under the water. I've tested this in 12 to 15 knot gusts at anchor and it seems to be effective in dramatically slowing and minimizing the 'sailing at anchor' motion. Yet to try it in more wind. 
A basic $30 fishing drogue may have the same effect. Maybe worth a try!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark&Catherine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2018 at 08:00
we have a simple triangle sail that we mount on the backstay in a similar place to Wayne's posh one, it was given to us.  Even the single sheet reduces swinging substantially, but the difficulty is in securing the sail in place, what ever we do it takes a while for the wind to 'catch' the new side as we have some boom movement and the 'clew' has to be supported somewhere in mid air between the split back stays.  Nevertheless it works, I imagine a nice two sided one like Wayne's is an excellent addition.  We don't mind the swinging unless it gets really extreme, but the world does wizz past when you look up out of the companionway sometimes
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Infinity III Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2018 at 13:35
This is our anchor sail. Made by Zar Sails in Norway. Works perfectly and easy to hoist in less than 5 minutes. 

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