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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ta'I Miti 2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 March 2017 at 15:54
Hello

I at least about to buy one now

There is a 700w lofrans for 510€ at rue de la mer

I'll buy a separate 70amp battery fixed under the front cabin bed
Linked to the charger with a 8mm2 cable and a 335mm2 to the windlass
It will be cheaper than buying 10m of 35mm2 battery cable

Jesper
Nice job the support

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How is the support fixed tot he hull?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iemand Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2017 at 08:19
If I look at the cables on my Hanse 370 I think they are max 12mm²!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iemand Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2017 at 08:24
Sorry I just checked: They are 35mm but not the last cm.

I still wouldn't put in an extra battery just for a windlass
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote h315idra Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2017 at 12:36

The supporto is joined to the hull by fiberglass; very strong.See. See pictures
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JesperB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2017 at 11:13
On the 370/400 (and maybee other models) the anchol looker is a part of the deck. I installed a inspection hatch and thrue that i mounted 2 aluminium plates. Holes were drilled in the flage of my GRP shelf, thrue the wall of the anchol looker and into the alu plates. Those were then treaded (M8). But, as said earlier, there is a 5-8 cm space between the looker and the hull. On the 312 I guess you need to laminat the shelf.
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Nigel Calder in his book "Boatowner's Mechanical and Electrical Handbook" states that the idea that you can have a battery near the windlass and only run small wires to it from the alternator is incorrect.  

Whilst the windlass may have a nominal working current of 60-100 amps, in near stall conditions the current draw may approach 300 amps.

The windlass battery will always be at a lower voltage than the alternator regulator, so when you are raising the anchor with the engine running, the wires between the alternator and the windlass battery will be carrying the full output current from the alternator.  Thus his statement is
 "The cables to the windlass battery will need to be rated for the maximum output of the alternator"

In a yacht the size of a 312 the savings in wiring cost will not be large and finding space to put a battery are limited anyway.  When I had a windlass installed on my 341, the engineers just ran large cables directly to the windlass.

One error they did make is that they mounted the socket for the hand control on the shelf alongside the windlass and forgot that the underneath of it was open and hence after a coupe of years the contacts were corroded and failed.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rodermund1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2017 at 02:49
I think I have the same windlass as you do, the Quick Genius.  My boat is brand new, a 2017 Hanse 315, but I find that when I let the rode out (all chain) and I try to pull the rode back up (I'm allowing for some slack in the rode and that it's just the weight of the chain and/or anchor), the chain slips, and I have to pull it up manually.  I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, or if there's a problem with the Windlass.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fendant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2017 at 08:06
John, this winch has a clutch to prevent overlod. You can tighten this by using a winch handle from the outside. Be careful not ot tighten it too much, as you might blow the fuse when the anchor gets trapped!
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Thank you.  I will try that!

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Hello
I installed a windlass before the summer my self

Lewmar pro 1000w + a free 12Kg Delta anchor: 750€ from UK
It's provide with all necessary components

Added 60m 10mm chain 

1 - Created a 6cm teak case 
2 - Added a 6 cm teak top/floor
3 - Drilled the holes for the chain and windlass
4 - 3 layers glass fiber + 2 layers of 2 component resine + 2 layer of 2 component paint
5 - 35 sqmm wire 
6 - Done

It took me about 16h

The wharf asked me 2500€ 



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