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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pennine star Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2021 at 18:26
Thanks Matt

Enjoyed the video, and insight into her handling,  

She is certainly quick and stable, I definitely do not want something twitchy nor wish to work the 
mainsheet on every gust

Now just need the lockdown to end, vaccines to be rolled out and find a nice example of a 418

thanks again

Adam





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you’re welcome. I’ve sent you a PM
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tranquillity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2021 at 16:13
Matt, Nice pics and article in Febs YM, Ember looking very smart! Like your choice of wines :-)  
Adam, We have been exceptionally pleased with our 418, sails brilliantly, the recommendations by Stuart /Matt are spot on and lots of other great advice in the forum. Get yourself a good dealer is essential for a smooth experience, I would endorse Phil from IMG in UK as extremely helpful.
Good luck !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2021 at 17:04
Thanks John. HNY - Obviously highly likely to change, but I'm booked to be lifted at Hamble Point from 23rd March - 8th April so may see you around depending on when Tranquility is ashore?
 
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Matt,
Just sent you a PM. Tranquillity is on the hard, looking forward when allowed to travel again to do the winter maintenance! 
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Hi, 

We sold our Westerly 33 for a Hanse 415. We bought 'Raggy Doll' new in July 2016 from IM. She is 2 cabin and 2 heads. We have had very few issues with her other than what I would described as general maintenance, we have sailed to Portugal and to the Canaries and recently she has come back to the UK. We were looking at a trip to the Caribbean prior to Covid, Brexit and other personal changes in our lives.

 We have fitted a number of additional items to suit our needs, making us more flexible and viable for longer trips and sea crossings and being on anchor. Such as, 3rd reef in the main, Furlstrom and Blue Water Runner sails, Fisher Panda Genset and upgraded Mastervolt inverter and battery charger, Sea fari water maker, (55litres p/hr), 2 solar panel 100w and 150w, Rutland 1200 wind gen.
We have sailed in up to F7/8 and she is incredibly stable for a production boat and fast. In stronger winds I tend to come off the wind a little more than I used to in my Westerly just to ease the effect of the occasional slam from a larger wave.

I changed the fixed prop for a 2 blade flexofold, purely as the slight uplift in speed can make a difference on a crossing of several days (I wouldn't bother really for coastal only sailing). We have the standard 40hp which has always had sufficient power and is reasonably fuel efficient. 
We converted the life raft cubby into the locker for the genset, the life raft is now on the pushpin with a hydrostatic release fitted (an option I prefer for ocean sailing). We also fitted a mast head tri-colour for offshore night sailing. We enjoy the larger galley with the 2 head version and the store is full with sails, spares and additional fuel for longer crossings as well as a SUP dinghy,BBQ, Torqueedo, fishing equipment, tools etc. 
We tend to only use the saloon heads at sea as there is less movement but 2 are useful when not at sea.

At 4 1/2 yrs old the sea coks are ok - we replaced the engine cooling valve last Sept as it had started to seize and one of the sea cocks in 2018 as a result of work fitting the water maker. We also had fitted additional USB chargers in the cabins and saloon as well as a direct to battery socket point for a search light in the rope locker near the helm and a charging point in one of the saloon lockers for a hand held Dyson!
I'm sure there's more (extra anchor chain, cruising pack, FCL sails, storm sail etc) but I believe I've included the main things.

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Andrew
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pennine star Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2021 at 15:36
Many thanks Andrew

Really helpful. I can see you are well kitted for bluewater although my immediate future will be coastal but certainly much longer passages within 3 years and thus the same ultimate desires of the extras you have fitted

I am particularly pleased with your experiences in a force 7/8 which is on my mind going from a heavy Moody, albeit a lot smaller

Thanks again, much appreciated

Just waiting for Covid to pi55 off now so we can hunt some down and go to see them

Adam


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Hi to all you Hanse sailors.

I am new to this forum and, like Adam, am considering a 418 and am keen to hear of your experiences and opinions on a few things, including as Adam said, what options and upgrades are recommended.

Thanks Matt for the video – went through it all and enjoyed seeing the boat actually sailing through a few manouvres without the model and the cool dude looking gorgeous as in the promo videos which I have run through a few times.

I take on board the comment about upgrading the prop and will keep that in consideration.

I would like an opinion on the suitability of the boat for blue-water sailing as I am also planning that for some time not too far away. My dream is for a high-performance boat which is actually built for sailing across oceans, and I have been led to believe that the Hanse 418 is not really in this category – I was even told that by a Hanse dealer. As an example, where would you stow the liferaft? Some other boats have a dedicated aft locker for that purpose. I suppose the answer is that it would go up on top of the coach roof and that is no real problem, but neither is it optimal.

S&J, what is the issue with the anchor roller – what sort of upgrade are you referring to? I would like to modify it to have a decent step for walking off the bow – is that what you mean? That is essential if you are mooring bow-to as in Sweden (no tide, bow up to the rocks, pray the stern anchor is set well). In fact I have seen this done, on Aurora in Sweden (the subject of another interesting tale).

Looking forward to hearing some words of wisdom.

Hector

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hexagon I recommend a book called Heavy Weather Sailing by Peter Bruce 

Independent objective analysis 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote S&J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 February 2021 at 23:22
If you take a look at some of the postings on ybw.com about lighter, beamier modern boats vs heavier (often older) but slower boats you will find s distinct split of opinion about what makes a good blue water cruiser.
Crossing an ocean takes you beyond reliable weather predictions so you can argue that you need to be ready for anything.  However most passages have a season when favourable weather can be expected.
I get the feeling that those favouring heavier boats may not appreciate the enjoyment of s higher performance boat when not on an ocean passage, which will be where the majority of days are spent.
Plenty of 415/8 and 445/55/58 boats can be found on the Arc and beyond.  The year I bought my 385 Interlude (first time boat owners) took their new 385 from Greifswald to Sydney.
Ultimately it is a personal choice.  I hope to get to the Caribbean with my 458, but we need to get clear if covid first and my plans go no further than aiming to get to the med this year.

Having sailed in the Swedish archipelagos, I have to say that the vertical stem does not make stern anchoring with bow to a rock easy!  Luckily I had a couple of teenage nephews who were able to long-jump ashore for me!  
The upgrade I referred to is to get s double anchor roller on the bow.  This is now offered as an upgrade by Hanse and allows use of a second bow anchor or taking a lazy-line or mooring line over a dedicated roller.  This option also provides a solid mounting point for a furling light air/ offering sail like the furlstrom.

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