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    Posted: 01 May 2019 at 01:28
i Everybody,

I am about to buy a Hanse 388 after a lot of research I think the quality is superior, space is awesome, and the finishes are better when we compare to Dufour or Jeanneau. I do not intend to live aboard, but I have plans to take long passages once a year (like from the USA to Europe).

Before I make this decision I would like to hear from owners:

Are you really happy with your Hanse?

What about the 2-year warranty? All the other brands are 3-5 years, is this a concern?.

How is the assistance? I am going to leave the boat in the USA East Coast.

What add-ons are must have, and which one is waste of money? For example, uprade to a 40Hp motor is really a must have? Performance sails?

Thank you!

 

 388, after a lot of research I think the quality is superior and the finishment  


Edited by christianb - 01 May 2019 at 02:37
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Just about to start my 5th season with my 385 having sailed about 7,000nm in Baltic an English Channel and lived aboard for 3-4 months each summer.
Very happy with my boat, especially how she sails and can be managed solo or with inexperienced crew.
Although it has been done, I wouldn't consider this the ideal boat for blure water/ocean cruising.

I have the standard engine and have never felt I needed more power.
The FCL sails are lasting well with no delamination.
I don't have a bowthruster and don't really feel a need for one, although there is always one or two tight spots each year where it might be handy.
I took very few options (bathing platform, side gates being the must haves)but did take advantage of the early bird offers which run from July.

If you are USA based and want to explore Europe I'd recommend collecting the boat from Greifswald and spending some time exploring the Baltic.  It's a little cold but great cruising grounds, edpespecia the Swedish and Norwegian archepelarch.
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Like Stuart I am in my 5th season with my 345, mostly family cruising.
The quality is very good, no problems at all with any equipment in 5 seasons. White gelcoat still looks good, with hull polishing every year and deck polishing every two years.
We have equipped the boat for "silver age" cruising and ordered electric winches, bowthruster and better matresses. I retrofitted a wireless remote for the anchor windlass and a 1600 W inverter for my Nespresso machine. FCL sails are still in immaculate condition, a gennaker with a bob stay was retrofitted. Interior still looks like new.
 
Being from Europe I have no idea about Hanse's dealer network, our US colleagues are in a far better position to report on this.
 
Handover was done by our local dealer and a few items were put on the snag list, which cleared in one afternoon. Don't expect a new boat to be in 100% perfect condition. We also opted for the bigger engine, this give me a fair and economic cruising speed at ~2000 rpm.A boat is a complicated little Universum. But your observation is correct, Hanse has a lot less imperfections than the other big boatbuilders and also a lot less than the double priced direct competitors from the luxury segment.
Summarizing my experience is that a Hanse offers the best price/ quality ratio.


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Hi,

I cannot better agree to the above, I love my Hanse 385 and would not like to change to any other brand. 
I did order the 40 HP engine, it is nice to have some xtra power but this might not really be necessary. The bathing platform is a must, the FCL sails, too. 

I did install a 1.600 W Inverter myself, may have been better to order it Upfront.

I also ordered the bowthruster, at the time of ordering it was not really necessary, more a convenience.  However I changed my harbor in between and my now berth is so narrow that with some side wind I would not be able to make it into it without the thruster, at least not single handed or wound need good linework of a crew. 

I was considering electric winches but decided against it. With the self tacking Jenny one needs only the starboard winch electric if at all to hoist the main, but this is usually once per sailing day, at the moment I still can do it, maybe in 10 years from now I might need this help, but the Electric is also retrofittable.  

I do have the full electronics package including Autopilot and 12“ Zeuss, strongly recommend this.

As luxury item I ordered the Flexiteek, it is even more expensive than regular wood, but on the other requires almost no maintaining. 

As said I also had some minor issues which had been fixed quickly, so no complaints. But do investigate about your US dealer, his performance is essential. The Brits seems to be so happy about their Inspiration Marine, Phil and his team seem to be outstanding as one can read in this forum.

Good luck,
I am looking forward to having you joining the Hanse owners group.

Best

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Rubato Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2019 at 17:43
I am not disagreeing with the above BUT your experience is going to be significantly dependent on your dealer. It's the dealer that resolves the problems for you, Hanse themselves are not very good at direct support to their customer (only if it's something major and that requires a lot of pressure from your dealer). There will be problems, all production boats (and custom) have issues that need resolving.

You didn't mention your intended usage but if it's coastal cruising in moderate conditions then you should have few issues with the boat. If you are intending to go off shore, do heavy weather sailing, or significant club racing you are going to break things and replace them with heavier duty kit - we're talking blocks, sheaves, winches....  Hanse is a good performing boat, hull and rig are quite robust but the rest of the fitment is built to a price point.

Not trying to deter you, I love my Hanse, but go in with your eyes open by understanding where the weaker points could be.

Cheers
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Christian:
We have loved our 2012 385 which we got in 2016. Don't know where you are planning to keep her on the East Coast, but our marina (River Dunes) is terrific and there is another 385 there in addition to ours. River Dunes is on the east coast of North Carolina, near Oriental, NC. Access to the water is fantastic and the harbor is very protected. Would be cool to have three Hanses there! 
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I agree with most of the above. I have had my 370 now for 12 years. I think the quality and finish of this boat is the same or better than other new boats I have seen in the North American Market. Everyone that has sailed on my boat always comments on the style and operation. I never needed the warranty but did have a few issues that I did not like and resolved over time:

1. I did not like the electrical layout on the 2007 model. I had the Alternator upgraded to 110 amp, replaced the SV1 relay with a Sterling Isolator, changed 50 amp fuses to 100 amp, upgraded to wiring to 100 amp. This combination proved much more robust then the original.
2. Did not like the gel coat coloring after 3 years. Ended up painting the hull in circa 2012. Now have a nice looking low maintenance boat.
3. The main sheet was to hard to work with. Purchased a slider system from Tides Marine and never had any new issues. Main goes up and down nicely now.
4. I did install a Maxipower thruster early on. Probably do not need it now that I have LOTS of practice getting into my slip but it does help when there is a lot of wind.
5. I would definitely replace the mattress. I have not done this due to expense but should have. I have a camping mattress that I use presently.
6. I installed an anchor windless 3 years after I purchased the boat. This was really nice to have when I am by myself.
7. Heat Pump. Wouldn't do without this. It helps in winter and summer.
8. I have the 40 HP engine but probably do not really need this.
9. I purchased a 110 volt power isolation transfer last year after my sail drive was eaten by electrolysis. If you are in a marina with lots of other boats I would highly recommend this.

Best regards for you new purchase. I hear the new Annapolis sails group is good to work with.

Mike
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Only had my 418 a few weeks so can't really comment, other than confirming the UK dealer IMG have so far been great and pretty responsive.
 
I spent many boat shows looking before I settled on the Hanse. I actually think the quality of the gelcoat finish is amongst the best I have seen and if the balsa core has been executed correctly that should be superior to divynicel that the likes of HR etc use. All the main equipment is the same as a Rassy - Selden rig, Yanmar engine, lewmar hull ports and winches/hardware, elvstrom sails etc. Jefa steering and rudders seem the norm across most brands, including Xyachts? So in summary the principal components are the same as boats twice the cost and yet the hull looks well constructed. To me the main differences are the quality of the interior joinery. But, what you trade on that with the top brands you gain in modernity and style. If you are a cruising couple or not chartering the boat then you should be able to treat the interior lightly and look after it.
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Guten Morgen,
Die Hanse ist sicherlich eine gute Wahl.
Sie planen, nach Europa zu segeln, meine Empfehlung: Kaufen Sie das Schiff direkt vom Vertrieb in Greifswald. Ihr Partner, Herr Karsten Baas.
Im Herbst bestellen, im Mai das Schiff übernehmen, im Greifswalder Bodden segeln, das Schiff testen, bei Problemen zurück zur Werft. In der Nähe der Werft sind sehr kompetente Zulieferer entstanden, die schnell helfen. Machen Sie eine Sommerreise durch die Ostsee, Polen, Schweden, Dänemark, Deutschland, eine ausgezeichnete Gegend, um die neue Yacht zu testen.
Bugstrahlruder nicht vergessen !!
Bleiben Sie im Winter in Greifswald und kehren Sie im nächsten Jahr in die USA zurück.
Viel Spaß mit dem neuen Schiff
Grüße aus Hamburg
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We have had "Echo of Wight" for 13 years and have had no issues with the build quality at all. We replaced the Volvo engine after 2,700 hours due to water damage that made it uneconomical to repair. The freshwater pump started leaking after ten years, so that was replaced. We have also changed all of the instruments from Simrad to Raymarine due to Simrads after sales and customer service support. None of these were issues with the boat itself. I would happily buy another Hanse.

Steve Jacobs,  Echo of Wight 
Steve. Hanse 341 Echo of Wight, . Deep draft and rudder, white hull, Single aft cabin. Raymarine instruments. Raymarine radar. Garmin AIS. Wheel Steering,   Portsmouth.
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