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Ratbasher View Drop Down
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ratbasher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2024 at 12:15
What people are basically saying in very nice ways is that you need to learn to walk before you can plan to run a marathon.  The questions you are focussing on are simply not appropriate at this stage; far better to concentrate on developing your sailing skills to the point where you are unlikely to present a burden to Search & Rescue organisations, never mind government agencies and insurance companies.  I'm sure that we all wish you the very best of fortune and will do all we can to help as you gain in experience. 

Edited by Ratbasher - 23 February 2024 at 14:11
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Hello 
I have a 312 and still dreaming to cross the big blue 

One point is insurance 

Many boats can cross, a 70 years old never sailed lady went to Tahiti on a Muscadet
I saw a 7m swedish old boat in Tahiti. He had no electronic nor maps

Insurance 
If your boat is not legally foreseen to cross, in case of trouble the insurance will help 
But will send you the bill €€€€€€€€

Problem with a passenger 
You know your boat is not suitable, you assume it and all it's consequences 

Tip buy a "régulateur d'allure". Auto pilot not on 12V

Hope you realize this dream 

Camille 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 15:27
I may be mistaken but were the requirements for the catagories changed some years ago.
I think that my 2003 311 was cat A but if catagorized now the identical boat would be a B.
But the classification for A has to be studied as I think that it is split into a couple of grades. Someone may be able to find the descriptions.
The best is is something like -extended offshore ocean sailing unassisted 
The description for mine includes waves up to 4M, which is not very big. I think that now only qualifies as B
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Insurances are by navigation zones
Cheap not far
Expensive round the world 

When you ask for an insurance, they ask you all ship documents 
Including category certification

So
Let's suppose you ask for a transatlantic insurance and you're B
They should refuse 

If they accept it should mean that they accept to cover your B boat for transat' 


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