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    Posted: 09 June 2019 at 20:41
Was idling away a few minutes looking at the historical data on the 415 (It was too windy to sail yesterday!) and noticed the displacement was listed as 8,900kg whereas the replacement 418 (essentially the same boat) is listed as 9,800kg. Keel displacements are broadly the same and I think I am right in saying they both have balsa cored hulls and decks...so a typo? or?
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Matt.

Really good question!

Believe wine cellar on both same sizeSmile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Antsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2019 at 06:44
Supposedly the same but a different way of weighing them now to include full fuel tank, so much water and whatever else.  This is what we are told by agent.
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Hmm...not sure that explains it. The RCD compliant handbook lists the empty displacement as 9,946kg (with std draft keel) and then gets the displacement to 13,171kg with fuel, water, crew, dinghy and stores. Fuel and water are listed as 663kg at 95% full.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote High Time Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2019 at 15:45
Surely that has to be wrong?
The 663kgs for the fuel and water sounds OK but that leaves over 2,500kgs for crew, dinghy and stores. Hard to believe, even with a crew of 10 heavy guys!
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I think its the way the RCD mandate that you count displacement. The handbook lists it as follows;

Basic equipment 200kg
Optional Equip 1,132kg (this must be with EVERY extra ticked!)
Liquids 663kg
Dinghy 30kg
Stores and cargo 350kg
Provisions 100kg
10 crew (it's RCD rating max) 750kg

Obviously I don't have the manual for the 415 so can only compare brochure displacement for the design weight which appeared nearly 1,000kg different. 

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