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Clouded Pearl
Captain Joined: 20 November 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 214 |
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That's a fantastic help. Thanks.
I think I'm going to add an inspection hatch in the forecabin ceiling (so I can access this again in future), maybe slightly larger than in the above photo (just to give me more space to work) and then take a look at the points you describe. I'm slightly puzzled how the third bolt may be inaccessible as when I looked at the broad position of the windlass relative to the inner molding in the forecabin, I would have thought that all bolts would be accessible and there would not have been a bulkhead near that, but I may be misunderstanding something? Nevertheless, your and others' help on here has made up my mind to go in from below via the forecabin, so, thanks! Just a quick question on the need to cut wires, are these not just bolted to the windlass via ring terminals already? If so, why did you need to cut the wires?
Edited by Clouded Pearl - 09 September 2020 at 08:45 |
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Brufan
Rear Admiral Joined: 16 December 2010 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 629 |
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There's no cable terminal on windlass. Two cables exit directly from the housing through a silicone filled gland. They are approx 4 ft long and they're not very thick (6 or 10 mm˛ as far as I remember). I put the windlass relay in the vicinity with 25 mm˛ cable running from batteries to relay.
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Bruno
hanse 355 - 57 S/Y Spicy Ginger White hull, 2 cabins, Volvo D1-30, Selden rig, removable mainsheet track system, Simrad (now B&G)-Jefa autopilot. |
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Clouded Pearl
Captain Joined: 20 November 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 214 |
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Ok. Thanks. Just ordered a suitable crimper.
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spam
Lieutenant Commander Joined: 22 February 2017 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 70 |
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Maybe the above image helps a little further. I basically had to cut the bulk head following the red line. Since there is an 1" gap between the inner liner of the anchor locker and the bulkhead you can get a saw in between and cut slightly behind the inner liner. Once you do that, I could reach thru the hatch and reach the most forward nut of the windlass. Cutting the bulkhead behind the liner was a bit of a pain, but doable. If in your boat the bulkhead is forward of the 3 bolt, even easier... Harold S/V Ventus 415/314 Boston
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Clouded Pearl
Captain Joined: 20 November 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 214 |
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Very interesting, thanks. However, I might be being dense, but I don't quite see how by cutting the bulkhead where you indicate, you were then able to access the hidden bolt?
Once you cut where shown, did you drop the bulk head down or did you cut a notch out at the top to then have access to the forward most bolt? Sorry to seem a stupid question!
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spam
Lieutenant Commander Joined: 22 February 2017 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 70 |
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Technically you don't need to cut out the entire perimeter, you just need enough to fit your tools through. So technically you right a "notch" might be enough. In practice though you might want to open up more of the area since the space between the liner and the bottom of the anchor locker is narrow, about 2", you probably want to be able to grab the nut and washer you are removing, position tools, etc. Remember you will need to do all of it going through the hatch first so if you cut a small notch behind it that is an extra handicap. I found it easier to just cut around as indicated, pull it backward through the gap, and then cut the u-shaped 2" cut off in pieces for easy removal. Since it is all invisible/non structural anyway, a little more space was nice. Once you have opened it up, you should have enough space to get to everything in front of the bulkhead reasonably okay for removal and (re) install.
I know it shouldn't be this difficult, but if you find an easier way, have the luck of all your bolt being on this side of the bulkhead and/or your bulkhead already leaving a gap to work through, let us know. One of our friends might be interested to know Success!
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Clouded Pearl
Captain Joined: 20 November 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 214 |
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Work in progress update. ........
I'm at my boat as I write this and I've worked out that I should be able to access the underside of the windlass by doing the following: 1. Adding a circular inspection hatch in the anchor well inner shell exactly as in S&J's picture of their 385 (mine doesn't have an inspection hatch). By pressing up on the anchor locker inner shell all over it, I can roughly tell that there is a void on the port side but not the starboard, just as I would expect given the moulding inside the anchor locker itself. By measuring from the forward hatch handle to the forward bulkhead in the forecabin, and repeating on deck, I can now see that my windlass straddles behind and in front of the forward bulkhead. Consequently, once I get the circular inspection hatch cut, I'll be able to establish whether I have access to the forward most stud(s) on the underside of the windlass. If not, I will need to carry out point 2 as well. 2. If access is blocked to the forward stud(s), I've calculated that if I add a small rectangular inspection hatch through the underside of the forward shelf in the forecabin, that will be wide and deep enough to gain access to any studs in front of the bulkhead. This is because the shelf extends further forward than the bulkhead in the cabin and actually appears as though it is solely decorative to cover the sloping anchor locker inner moulding. Assuming this works, which I'm confident it should, the shelf inspection hatch will never be visible but will allow maintenance in future. The approximate location of the hatches will be as shown: Edited by Clouded Pearl - 13 September 2020 at 14:30 |
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AndyS
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Thanks for this "real time" reporting - interested to see how this turns out, as this is great info for all of us. Thanks!
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Andy
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Pete In The East
Sub Lieutenant Joined: 09 November 2020 Location: Orwell, Suffolk Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Can you please add some photos of your modifications? Thanks!
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