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SparxSea
Lieutenant Commander Joined: 06 January 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 75 |
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Posted: 10 July 2019 at 00:28 |
We previously owned a Hanse 470e which we sailed from the UK back home to Australia. For far too many reasons to go into, we have been 'boatless' for a number of years and are hoping to be back on the water next year. We are considering our options but are looking at upgrading to a 575. We are a husband and wife couple and it will be the two of us on board most of the time, along with non-sailing friends. Appreciate your feedback as owners of the 575 about the positive and negative aspects of this size boat with regard to short handed handling and long term livability. Many thanks.
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'Sunboy' Hanse 470e
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Black Diamond
Vice Admiral Joined: 24 October 2015 Location: Newport, RI, US Status: Offline Points: 923 |
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You described the situation my wife and I are in very well. We are both experienced sailors, but are usually sailing by ourselves. We often have guests. Some sail, some don't. We are not crossing oceans, and are usually doing coastal cruising between April and November each year. Our boat is out of the water for 4 months (we ski in the winter). We built a new 575 and took delivery of it in July of 2017. Much of the below comes from learnings in the 2 years we have had the boat. Pros
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That's pretty much the laundry list. Keep in mind that that its not a "count". The number of pros versus cons doesn't matter. We love the boat, but want to lay things out for you as we see it. There is nothing that you can't make right or get used to. Any specific questions I'm sure myself, Wayne, Rob, Henry or other 575 owners can answer once you digest your initial feedback. Good luck! Edited by Black Diamond - 10 July 2019 at 05:43 |
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Rick
S/V Black Diamond Hanse 575 Build #192, Hull# 161 Newport, RI |
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Wayne's World
Admiral Joined: 18 July 2012 Location: Cruising Status: Offline Points: 1111 |
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Al,
A friend in Cairns (Yorkeys) has had a 470E for about 12 years and it is a fast, stiff with a powerful rig. The standard keel on the 470 was 2.6m with a mast height of 24+ meters or around 80ft. So the 575 keel depth and mast height are not that much more. We have a 2014 delivered 575 and live on her virtually full time - even spend most of the winter on her in a marina. We have traveled about 17,000nm in northern Europe and mainly the MED so far. We have traveled 99% of this distance two up - no other crew. We opted for the shoal draft L keel. We also opted for a bow and stern thruster so handling the boat under power in marinas and docks is not an issue. Also fiited a bigger anchor and max SS chain. We have the 3 cabin/3 head layout which we think suits our cruising. We also added an extra 320 liter fuel tank (in the bow), 10kva genset, watermaker and dive compressor. I would think you would find the fitout of the 575 to be better and a bit more homie- the 470 I thought was a bit minimalistic/ Ikea-ish by comparison which was the Hanse style back then. We also add a BWR downwind sail of 220m2. We also recently changed our house batter bank to Lithium which has been a success. The 575 is a biggish boat with lots of windage but also lots of space and storage. Depends what you want from your next boat. The new model, 588, I think is a step backwards as far as cruising is concerned. It is squarely aimed at the Med and charter market. The 588 does have some nice refinements but they have done away with some of the cruising features like the large forward facing nav station/office below. I would add to Ricks pros - 9. The dinghy garage is great - keeps the dinghy safe, out of the way and out of the sun. On Rick's cons I would say a few of these are standard to most production boats and others are fairly minor- but true. Agreed the owners cabin sullage tank at 35 ltr is too small but we have the two aft 85 ltr tanks to use as well. We have upgraded the bilge pumps and fuel filtration. So, would we buy a 575 again - YES. I haven't seen another boat for the price(or a lot more) that would meet our needs and wants any better. Happy to answer any questions you may have. Good luck.
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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Caribbean and will head across the Pacific early 2024 |
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Relentless
Commander Joined: 17 April 2018 Status: Offline Points: 132 |
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We love our 575!! It is flashy and turns heads... it is fast, fun and easy to sail!
We are a live-aboard couple who mostly sail with just two of us on board. The 575 is easy to single hand. I think the cons are those associated with a big boat. Mainly cost! Dockage, equipment, repairs... everything cost more with size. Also cruising areas. Our 575 draws 9-1/2 feet of water and about 85’ above water. Marina’s think I’m crazy or confused when I tell them that we draw 9-1/2’. Bridges have prevented us from traveling to some places. But... all of those cons disappear when you are sailing her in deep water, close hauled with 18knts of wind. She’s thoroughbred and will erase any regrets about cost or size. After a great day sailing, settle in for a luxurious night on anchor while your face relaxes from smiling so much!! Good luck!
Edited by Relentless - 08 August 2019 at 21:59 |
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Rod-Thomas
Sub Lieutenant Joined: 13 August 2019 Location: The Mediterrane Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I share ownership of a new in 2018 Hanse 588. We chartered a new 575 from Majorca the year before. Loved the boat but had a list of things we wished.had.been done differently. To our great pleasure pretty.much all our niggles had.been addressed in the 588.
For virtually the same.money it seemed to us that it was s better finished and thought out boat. We sail 2 up right through to 8 up..First.season was 4000 mm from UK down to Med ending up in Sicily. Second season. 2019, only half done but another 4000 mm around Greece, Turkey and Croatia. We love The windscreen and.hard.top Internal.layoiut Dinghy garage, goodbye to launching from deck.amd.then lifting outboard from stern rail Sailing perfoance with extra electric furling Genoa Performance under motor Sea keeping The space! In the cockpit, saloon, cabins Styling, very contemporary without being hard edged The cons Too.mamy problems and issues from.minor to.major. we are on third autolelm unit, it took.ages to.diagnose multiple problems Control panel just failed. Locked anchor can't get up or down even manually Latches for drawers and lockers have been fitted with undersized.screws so after some.time.they move and don't lock. No fun in a bouncy sea when doors fly open! Furling mechanism for mainsail had wrong line which didn't create enough friction so.burmt out plastic rings in less than one season. Major replacement job. Most sensors don't work. Water, fuel, etc. So. have to estimate contents. Could.go.on but this is our.summaey Love.the.boat but quality.control suspect. Too many problems with major items. Worry.about taking.her around.thr world,.which is part of our plan, with this level of gear.failure. If you buy s new.Hanse we recommend 1 Choosing a big dealer with a reputation for service. We can't speak.highly.enough of Inspiration Marine in.uk.whomhabe provided excellent support and moved mountains to.help.us. Allow at least a week for commissioning and.maybe get s.boat surveyor to check for you (.we didn't spend the time) For your first season make sure you are not.too remote from getting spare.parts and engineering support. Discuss with your dealer the warranty position for.third.party.iitems. our.elextronixs is.Band G, autopilot is Lewmar,.boat is.Hanse. so who is responsible for sorting a problem? Maybe this sounds like doom.and.gloom. Not.intended. Wherever we go experienced sailors come.an comment on.how.beautoful she looks. Once the problems are sorted we look forward to relatively trouble free sailing. |
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