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absimpson
Lieutenant Joined: 28 February 2011 Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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Posted: 22 July 2013 at 08:55 |
Does anyone have aircon fitted?
If so, what brand have you used and do you have any comments on noise, reliability etc etc? Thanks.
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tobo
Captain Joined: 01 February 2006 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 263 |
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Come on, forget aircon, this is so perverse unless you are sailing in Africa! Whould you shut down the boat at night? Tell your crew to sleep on deck when it is really hot; that's why the Hanse yachts have such waste deck areas, you can even use the cockpit on the newer models where you can lower the cockpit table. And believe me, there is no noiseless aircon, just the noise of the coolingwater dripping out will disturb the romantic silence in a bay where you are anchored. For God's sake we are doing an outdoor sports, aren't we! I once had a neighbouring Hanse 540 owner who always closed his boat and I thought he had gone away until I found out he had an aircon and every few hours he emerged from below putting his empty beer bottles on deck. How crazy!
Edited by tobo - 09 August 2013 at 17:38 |
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Thomi
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lukemi
Commadore Joined: 06 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 439 |
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AB, Everyone on my dock in my Marina has Air Conditioning. It is very rare to find anyone in my Marina sleeping on a boat WITHOUT Air conditioning (some rare instances on small boats). I have been in many locations in Africa and believe me, the East Coast of the US is hotter and more humid with just a many mosquotes. I spend about 80% of my boat hours at the dock, mainly on weekends and enjoy conversations with friends in a cool environment. I believe this option needs to be evaluate based on where you live and how you use your boat. I have a 370 and use a 16,000 BTU CruseAir out of Annapolis, Maryland that provides both heating and AC using a heatpump water exchange which is very efficient. It is a very good company/product but not sure if they are international. There are many options available and I am sure you will enjoy your boat more often if you have some relief from the heat.
Mike
Stella Maris 370
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Fendant
Admiral Joined: 03 November 2012 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1617 |
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I fully agree: a) in Switzerland an aircon is useless, just leave the hatches open and eventually fit a fan
b) in Florida or in Turkey it is a must, not just added quality of life. I once saw a boat moored in Florida where the aircon failed working some months ago, disgusting situation inside the cabin.
In my view the boar was a write off.
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hanafe
Captain Joined: 17 August 2011 Status: Offline Points: 195 |
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In Hong Kong you need an a/c if you want to stay on board over night during summer. If you do not have one you have to do day sailing only. On our current 445 we thought this time we do not go for the a/c in the option list. What a stupid decission, after the first summer we retrofitted a Climma and Paguro 5000. When properly installed the noise is acceptable. More acceptable than 75 - 90% humidity. AND it takes away the mold, when regulary used.
Our water outlet is just above the waterline in the middle of the stripe. We do not hear anything sitting outside. The generator exhaust has a separator of water and air. The water is pumped out under the waterline. So you can not hear anything, the air above the waterline. You hear a little bit only. To retrofit is a hassle. If you think about an a/c, go for it in the option list. Considering all hussle and costs for retrofit it is only slightly more expensive than doing it later, but all pipes, hoses, outlet, grills are at the best place from the very beginning. Cheers HanaFe |
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tobo
Captain Joined: 01 February 2006 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 263 |
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Dear Fendant I'm not sailing in Switzerland, I'm talking about Greece and we just finished our summer cruises. It was hot at night only during the last week. In the Cyclades you have enough air at night as the Meltemi is always blowing and even in the Ionian sea, where it is mostly becalmed after sunset we never suffered. I suppose in Turkey it is about the same.
The tendency to supply boats with the same living standard you have at home (a/c, tv, dishwasher, microwave aso) is something I do not understand unless you are really living on the boat and it becomes your home on the water. For me holidays is always adventure and it means you are able to reduce life to basics. Four weeks without tv news, no radio and no newspapers is fantastic, I never missed it. The more you appreciate it when you come home, don't you. And think of it: what can break - breaks, so the more you have aboard the more worries you have to fix it . Edited by tobo - 10 August 2013 at 15:01 |
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Thomi
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Mark&Catherine
Admiral Joined: 18 January 2013 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1200 |
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Oh dear,
We debated aircon for a long time, upside being comfort and downside meaning we had to have all that weight on board (by the time we added the genrator) and having all the space taken up by the ducting pipes in all the lockers.
In the end we didn't go for it, arguing that we can put a portable unit on board when in the marina, which will also act as our dehumidifier if we get a condensing one.
Did we do the right thing??????? I starting to worry
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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine
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