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    Posted: 14 March 2019 at 17:28
Hello!
New here, got a Hanse 470 (built 2009/ MY2010) and I am wondering:

1. Life raft size
- The manual says: "The inflatable life raft should have a capacity of 12 persons."
- Q1: Do I have to carry this, even if I'll never have more than 8 persons on board?
- Q2: Is it recommended (and allowed) to get 2 for 6 persons each (for better weight distribution but also easier deployment when needed).

2. Life raft brand & type
Any tips regarding, which brand to buy and what type?
Also welcome advise: Which not to buy!

3. Life raft location on boat
Where should I keep the life raft(s)?
What is your experience?

Thank you!
George
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Evening George,

Welcome to 470 ownership and a good choice.

Where in the world are you as brands and types as well as ease of delivery may differ in different continents.  What sort of sailing are you intending in doing and in what waters?

If you're intending in getting it coded in the UK then it will match the number of persons the boats coded for.  Obviously, the boat has three doubles (usually) so six persons, unless you intend on sleeping people in the saloon.  We short sail with two of us mainly taking friends out on occasions.

We used to have a Seago liferaft kept in a bag in the stern locker until I tried to lift it out.  Hard enough when stationary moored up, probably impossible in a rough sea and in a bad state of mind.  That lead me to tie it down on the deck in front of the companionway when we sailed any great length i.e. from Cowes to beyond Studland/Swanage.  However, it was in a yellow case and to be honest spoilt the look.

I had it serviced but it was coming to the end of its shelf life and a colleague of mine needed one for racing purposes so he paid for its final service meanwhile I bought a new one plus mounting frame as can see below.




This is another Seago and is of six-man capacity, at least here I (or someone else) can release it with ease whilst the grab bag, EPIRB & handheld VHF is collected.

As you can see we have Davits so we usually have a rubber dinghy hung beneath and a knife is next to the companionway.

Hope this gives you food for thought.



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Hello Jon!

Thank you for your response! It is very useful! Also, great tips for the dinghy, knife, grab bag!

ISO Time is in Hamble and yes, she has 3 cabins. She has been out of the water since December.
The plan is to sail every August for the next “couple” of years. This year is Scandinavia (next winter Riga or Tallinn), 2022 we may be crossing the Atlantic ...

I like a lot your current solution: I think it’s very safe and practical, looks quite good as well!

Would you then recommend me to keep a second life raft below deck?

Thank you again for taking the time for this topic, highly appreciated :)

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Morning George,

No I wouldn't advise that.

In the situation when you need to deploy the liferaft your state of mind needs as few complications as possible. Getting your crew off as safe as possible paramount, taking items to aid rescue and possible long term sit out secondary. To then think about deploying a second liferaft is fruitless and could add risk.

If you have everyone in one liferaft then for mental welfare it's one less to worry about. Split the crew and concerns for those on the other craft will grow, in a rough and windy sea the craft could break from each other.  Also you'll be splitting body warmth, its better to have six in a six man craft with one grab bag than three in each and double up on safety equipment.

Also you're adding unnecessary weight.

NK is kept up the Medina and we used to spend six weeks also in August making our way to the Scilly's visiting alternative anchorages/ports on our return. This was part of our agreement with the Cowes Harbour Commission to enable them to use our mooring during Cowes week. Times have changed and that no longer occurs, I think they prefer the extra months guaranteed fee.

See you in the Solent no doubt, we can often be found anchored in Totland Bay at weekends.
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Good morning Jon,

Thank you for the tip! Totland Bay sounds good!

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