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    Posted: 21 June 2023 at 12:35
Hi. Has anyone taken delivery of a 460 with factory supplied Lithium batteries? If so can they share some initial thoughts.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sahinsair Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 August 2023 at 11:57
I have intended and changed my mind. The dealler couldnt sy the brand of the litium batterys. I would preffer to speaks all battery's and controller systems.  For that reason i didn't ortdered inverter as well. I was thinking to put Victron inverter and mppt, charge controller etc.  
I have chosen to buy jeneratör with that money. Then after I will put victron equipment.  The factory doesnt put this brand. 

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As far as I know, the factory uses Lifos brand for LiFePo4 batteries. This is seen on their online spare part shop www.hanseboatonn.com. The RRP on the site is around 2200 Euros including VAT. However if you check by German chandlery www.svb24.com you will see that the same Lifos battery is ex VAT something around 760 Euros
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Lifos has been chosen as a good LiFePo4 type of battery by an English caravan and boat magazine in terms of price / quality ratio
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Here is another brand that I would consider if I did not already have lifepo4.

Youtube review:
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I have 1500 amp hours of Litime LFP batteries and can recommend them highly. They have surpassed my expectations and factory service and attention is top notch. They have a very comprehensive BMS on board which manages everything needed for charging and discharging. So much so that they are a drop in replacement for AGM with no changes to charging systems. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Darek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2024 at 16:52
hallo everyone, 
what should be the voltage of fully charged lithium battery? 

I just joined with my new H460 and i have lifos lithium battery bank with inverter/charger  from MasterVolt. This setup is original from shipyard. Lithium batteries are new to me. I can see 13.2V and it looks to me 70-80%. I requested the dealer to investigate.
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Table of LiFePO4 voltage v SOC.  Might help you. Note these are resting voltages, not charge voltages.  Not clear what you are having investigated.  You are about spot on with your 70-80% logic.  Note that SOC readings can bee wildly unreliable with the batteries.  Go by the resting voltage.

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Thanks Mark,
interesting.. 100% is between 13.6V and 14.4V.
yes, I use resting voltage displayed on the DC Panel. The whole confusion is around the reading from MasterVolt CombiMaster (12V/3000VA-100A) which shows 100% SOC and in the same time I see 13.2V. I will do some tests in coming days together with the dealer.
Mark, one more question regarding the table you posted... is it for any LiFePO4 battery brand? I'm wondering why Lifos (manufacturer) didn't include it in technical specs.
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