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    Posted: 10 September 2023 at 16:24
There was a great post a while back, not sure what forum, on sailing off the wind with a self tacking jib.  I have spent the last 30 minutes doing searches on various terms like off wind, barber, etc. etc. 

The  post had some great pictures of how he setup a barber hauler with I think a low friction ring.

On my 348 I have what looks to be a jackline attachment padeye on the toerail forward of the shrouds and just aft of the jib traveler. I am thinking of using this somehow for a barber hauler for off wind sailing. The top half of the self tacking jib is way too open and useless. If anyone can point me to this thread, would be greatly appreciated.
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I donít have any photos but I use a barber hauler routinely off the wind. My set up uses a similar pad eye location as you describe. I leave it pre rigged to the pad eye with a block with the tail going aft to a secondary winch. When I anticipate needing it, Iíll use a snap shackle to attach the new sheet to the jib. As I ease the self tacking sheet, I start to take up on the new sheet until finally the new sheet is taking the full load. The only tricky part is deciding whether to run the new sheet outside or inside the lifelines as it goes to the jib. For deeper wind angles, outside is better. But as you start coming up wind, being inside the lifelines is advantageous. Especially in combination with the self tacking sheet pulling the tack to windward.
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Sorry I am only on my phone, so can not send link.

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for my entry

I will send link later.


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Boatman,

Found the post using Martins search details - but use "Controlling the jib downwind" and it should take you straight to the post. 
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Thanks to both of you. appreciate it. Might use an antal ring rather than a block hooked to the ring with a soft shackle and lead an old jib sheet with a snap shackle to it.
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I tried a ring but the friction was very very high. The load on the sheet is considerable and a block is the way to go.
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Hi All
I did install barber hauler...a long time ago!
There are fixed padeyes and Harken  blocks with dyneema sheets leading to a Spinlock in the cockpit.
When sailing downwind, I used the spinnaker pole in a fix position with the staysail halyard and the boom preventer in conjonction with the barber hauler.
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