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Topic: Change of Toilet Hose
Posted By: Gaga
Subject: Change of Toilet Hose
Date Posted: 03 September 2020 at 11:29
Hanse 400 2008 -
My only access seems to be via the door under the toilet zink.
or remove the plate covering the holding tank.


Is it possible to lift the holding tank by loosing the two bolts on top and thereby get easy access to
fit the new hoses going to thrugh and to toilet

Anybody have a GREAT way to change hoses WITHOUT drilling holes in the side 
under the holding tank.

Very much pleased to ehar

GAGA DEN 808 - Hanse 400/2008
Denmark





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Posted By: WEmmens
Date Posted: 03 September 2020 at 16:47
Hallo Gaga,
I finally decided to cut a hole of  127 mm and mount an inspection hatch.
Now I have easy access if needed.
Good luck,
Wilko


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Hanse 400, Mona Lisa, #337, 2007, Yanmar 3JH4E, Flexofold 3bl.


Posted By: Captain Cook
Date Posted: 03 September 2020 at 20:22
Why dont you send a PM to H8jer? He changed the holding tank 3 months ago, so he may have some hints.
:Kjeld


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Freya H400 #27 (2006), 40HP 3JH4E, 2-cabin, 3-blade Flexofold, Aries LiftUp Windvane, Exturn 300, Jefa DD1,Simrad NX40,Icom M603(VHF)+M802(SSB)


Posted By: Rikard_Swe
Date Posted: 04 September 2020 at 05:27
I changed my toilet last winter and changed the hose from the toilet at the same time. I did not cut any hole in the boat. I removed the door under the sink and used that space to reach in, some of the work needed to be done by hand wothout seeing. 

During the winter I will remove the original tank - since it is so small and make a new one out of epoxi - to make it as big as possible. At the same time I will change the inlet from the toilet, original the inlet comes under the tank - wich gives unneccesary force to the toilet. I want the inlet to be mounted ontop. 



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Hanse 400 2011, Stockholm Sweden.


Posted By: Captain Cook
Date Posted: 04 September 2020 at 10:06
Rikard:
The inlet is at the bottom, but there is a pipe inside so the waste is deposited at the top of the tank.
https://hanse.boatoon.com/en/shop/article/24742/Waste-tank-35L-plastic" rel="nofollow - https://hanse.boatoon.com/en/shop/article/24742/Waste-tank-35L-plastic
:Kjeld


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Freya H400 #27 (2006), 40HP 3JH4E, 2-cabin, 3-blade Flexofold, Aries LiftUp Windvane, Exturn 300, Jefa DD1,Simrad NX40,Icom M603(VHF)+M802(SSB)


Posted By: H8jer
Date Posted: 04 September 2020 at 20:11
As Captain Cook said - I removed the old tank some months ago.
There are two bolts/nuts holding the stainless tank. But also sikaflex.
Bruteforce was needed. It is the only way possible to change the hose. The tank need to come out with the two hoses still attached.









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Hanse 370#487 30HP 3-cabin


Posted By: Gaga
Date Posted: 07 September 2020 at 10:53
Thanks for the advise and i think the Sikaflex have to go...




Posted By: Gaga
Date Posted: 07 September 2020 at 10:54
thanks but my arms seems to be too short.....


Posted By: Bruno
Date Posted: 07 October 2020 at 21:11
If this may help you, I created an access trap right next to the toilet by cutting off the fiberglass and integrating the Dometic Dryroll. I used the hole to access to my new hose coming from my haft cabin closet where I installed my SS holding tank. Cutoff isn't very large but you may insert your hand. Plus our paper roll is now protected from water splash and gives a great look. https://www.dometic.com/en-us/us/products/hygiene-and-sanitation/sanitation/accessories/dometic-dryroll-_-219696


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Bruno

Hanse 400, 2010 Hull 660, Canadian flag sailing Lake Champlain, VT USA


Posted By: Peter Russell
Date Posted: 08 October 2020 at 12:46
I have put that toilet roll holder into the under sink cupboard door.  Works very well there.  Hanse 370 2008 model.

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Peter Russell

Hanse 370 hull 499 "Outnumbered"



http://outnumbered.the-russells.net" rel="nofollow - http://outnumbered.the-russells.net


Posted By: Heikki
Date Posted: 08 October 2020 at 14:01
I changed the toilet hoses (have two toilets on my H400e 2006) through the sink cupboard door opening same way as Rikard_Swe without drilling any holes. Sure, it is not the easist thing to do on board, but still quite possible. Anyway it was much easier than on my previous boat Sweden Yachts 36. I got the feeling that someone at Hanse has thought of the matter when designing the boat unlike the designers at Sweden Yachts.

Regards,
Heikki


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Melanie
Hanse 400e #121


Posted By: Gaga
Date Posted: 08 October 2020 at 18:30
thanks for all the advise. I will give it a try without making holes.



Posted By: HPNielsen DK
Date Posted: 03 November 2020 at 09:01
Hi
I’m in the process of replacing our holding tank with a bigger one too. I have removed the old tank. In order to modify the old tank I have cut it open. 



Posted By: DJgun
Date Posted: 23 December 2020 at 08:00
Nice idea.


Posted By: Saltair
Date Posted: 31 December 2020 at 08:17
Hi Guys,
My shipwright cut a 270x300mm hole below the tank as the only way to access the lower hoses as he couldn't remove the tank without spending hours dismantling. We have installed an inspection hatch in the cut out.
Beware
A warning though the stainless steel holding tank has developed a 3-5 mm hole along the bottom fwd edge, I expect a dodgey weld, poor workmanship or corrosion.

Now tank has to be removed and replaced, I think I will go a poly tank:)




Posted By: Gaga
Date Posted: 31 December 2020 at 10:31
just for the record.
 I managed to change both hoses without cutting holes in the
Fiberglass.
Down on your bag right arm and shoulder and then head through the door 
under the sink. Not comfy at all but it worked.



Posted By: Saltair
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 05:02
Hi,

Has anyone installed this tank? https://hanse.boatoon.com/en/shop/article/24742/Waste-tank-35L-plastic" rel="nofollow - https://hanse.boatoon.com/en/shop/article/24742/Waste-tank-35L-plastic
Is the size comparable with the stainless steel tank and what is the quality like?
Cheers
Brian 


Posted By: H8jer
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 10:26
Hi Brian

Yes I have replaced the stainless tank for the plastic one.
https://myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11891&KW=&PID=97811&title=holding-tank-replacement#97811" rel="nofollow - https://myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11891&KW=&PID=97811&title=holding-tank-replacement#97811
The old one was coroded after 12 years of use.
The new one is a bit smaller but it is see-through so it is easy to monitor the level. I don't know if this will fade away over time.
The plastic model is much cheaper than getting a new stainless tank welded. Btw. Welders don't like to weld on old toilet residue...


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Hanse 370#487 30HP 3-cabin


Posted By: Saltair
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 10:46
Thanks H8jer

Did you get one made or purchase the   https://hanse.boatoon.com/en/shop/article/24742/Waste-tank-35L-plastic" rel="nofollow - https://hanse.boatoon.com/en/shop/article/24742/Waste-tank-35L-plastic
Cheers 
Brian


Posted By: H8jer
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 10:50
Yes got it from boatoon. 160 euro with shipping.
My boat is Hanse 370.
It was easy to install. First attach the hoses to the buttom of the tank. Then insert the tank and attach all the hoses.
It is a huge advantage that the tank is see-through


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Hanse 370#487 30HP 3-cabin


Posted By: Rikard_Swe
Date Posted: 02 January 2021 at 10:23
Originally posted by HPNielsen DK HPNielsen DK wrote:

Hi
I’m in the process of replacing our holding tank with a bigger one too. I have removed the old tank. In order to modify the old tank I have cut it open. 


Good looking tank! 
Is it for the aft toilet H400? 
How many litres is it? 
Can you place it without doing damage to the boat, just remove the cupboard or do you need to cut anything? 
//Rikard


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Hanse 400 2011, Stockholm Sweden.


Posted By: toholthe
Date Posted: 03 January 2021 at 20:59
....and how do you intend to enlarge it?


Posted By: Kymo
Date Posted: 09 January 2021 at 15:18
When I wanted to change the toilet hose the yard came up with this idea:

Closed




and open:




You can see the plastic brown covers over the screws holding the cupboard in place. When you unscrew them you can remove the cupboard and have access.

I think it was a very good idea.

Cheers, Wijnand.



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