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Using a pole with asymmetrical spinnaker

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Topic: Using a pole with asymmetrical spinnaker
Posted By: Captain MJ
Subject: Using a pole with asymmetrical spinnaker
Date Posted: 30 September 2021 at 23:13
Greetings fellow Hanse enthusiasts...

I am wondering if any of you have rigged your 341/342 for being able to use a pole with your asymmetrical spinnaker. I've searched the forum and found a few posts where that has been mentioned, but there weren't any details of how it was achieved.

The goal is to be able to carry the A-kite at a deeper angle, possibly up to even DDW.

I'd appreciate any input, especially from those of you who have done this, about how you achieved it and how well it worked. Also how you gybe with that setup.

Thanks in advance!


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Mark Jordan : ASA Sailing Instructor : USCG Licensed Captain : Hanse 342 "Twelve-Winded Sky"



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Posted By: PekkaL
Date Posted: 01 October 2021 at 15:02
Apologies for the un-answer: I considered doing this with my 371, but it turns out you'll need a quite long and strong pole: significantly longer than you'd expect to use with symmetric sail. The increased length drives the need for strength (of course depending on you asymmetric's measurements). 

Additionally: I do not think you need this going dead downwind (+/- ≈10). In reasonable wave goosewing (or 'hymn book' as we tend to call it) without a pole works OK, even through this requires constant concentration...


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Pekka Leppanen, "Vedette"


Posted By: Martin&Rene
Date Posted: 01 October 2021 at 17:08

If you pm your email address, I have have found a magazine article on how to set up a a asymmetric spinnaker and then switch it to acting as a symmetrical spinnaker on a pole.  They basically use a standard size spinnaker pole for that yacht.  

This is a video that shows how one couple does it, basically as described in the article.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpfAamc1uD0

With regard to gybing, I think the only way is to switch the set up back to being a standard asymmetric, tighten the tack line, gybe the chute (lines round the front) and then reset the pole. 

Just for completeness, here are links to some other threads I have commented on on using chutes.

If you look at this thread and the related ones, you can see how I set up the tack line so it can be adjusted from the cockpit.
http://www.myhanse.com/bullseye-for-tackline_topic10634_post89225.html?KW=chute#89225

You may also find some of the related thread of use on how I hoist and lower the chute.
http://www.myhanse.com/snuffers_topic10698_post89894.html?KW=chute#89894

This post shows how I control my jib down wind and then how I goosewing it for dead downwind sailing.

https://www.myhanse.com/controlling-the-jib-downwind_topic10476_post88083.html?KW=jib#88083

Last year, we were certainly faster downwind with this setup, than a similar yacht that was broad reaching and gybing.  https://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11137&KW=snuffer&PID=92477&title=location-for-cruising-chute-blocks#92477" rel="nofollow">View Post
  

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Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout, normally based in Scotland


Posted By: iemand
Date Posted: 01 October 2021 at 20:59
I did that often on my 312 with a normal spinnaker pole. works very well, you only should be able to fit it on the mast quite low e.g. with a track. only guyping is difficult...

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Hanse 312 MJ 2004 - Hanse 370e MJ 2007



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