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Middle Cleat on 312?

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Topic: Middle Cleat on 312?
Posted By: Syakka
Subject: Middle Cleat on 312?
Date Posted: 04 November 2023 at 17:51
Hi Experts,

has any of you mounted middle cleats on your 312? Did you do this yourself? Loads of effort?

Cheers,

MArcel 



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Posted By: Kox
Date Posted: 07 November 2023 at 20:14
I have a 315, but I guess it's similar.
There is an area foreseen to mount the cleats on. On mine there's a piece of aluminium moulded in to the deck.
I bought the cleats from SVB:  https://www.svb24.com/en/pfeiffer-cleat-with-base.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.svb24.com/en/pfeiffer-cleat-with-base.html  on mine the toe rail is of Pfeiffer-system.

I have not done it yet, I bought all the parts, and I think it's going to be pretty straight forward.

Drill 10.5 mm hole in deck until aluminium plate. Drill tat with 8,5mm drill, and cut a 10mm thread in the aluplate. 
Apply Sikaflex and tighten the 2 M10 stainless bolts. 


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Hanse 315, Ella, Hull# 640


Posted By: Syakka
Date Posted: 07 November 2023 at 20:26
Hey Kox,

Not quite sure I understand the steps, but thanks for the link to SVB.
Are you going to put the base plat below the deck or on board? If on board - are you just screwing into the hull?

Cheers,

Marcel


Posted By: Kox
Date Posted: 07 November 2023 at 21:58
The cleat and base are above deck. 

On mine there is a plate moulded in to the deck. 

If you remove the cover plate in the top of the shelves in the cabin, you should be able to see if there is a moulded plate against the light on a sunny day. 


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Hanse 315, Ella, Hull# 640


Posted By: Syakka
Date Posted: 08 November 2023 at 19:09
Okay -so you have to drill into/through that plate to fix the screws from below with a counter-mother?

Thanks for your hint so far. I will have to check next time when I am on board Smile

Cheers,

Marcel


Posted By: Kox
Date Posted: 08 November 2023 at 20:44
No. 
The aluminium plate is inside the glassfibre. So I would drill 10.5mm in the glassfibre until the aluplate, and then 8.5mm in the aluplate and the glassfibre on the underside of the aluplate.

And then I would use one of these to make a M10 thread.




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Hanse 315, Ella, Hull# 640


Posted By: Syakka
Date Posted: 08 November 2023 at 22:17
AH!
So you are going to cut a thread into the Alu. 
Now I got it, haha.

Sounds like a good winter project!

Cheers,

MArcel


Posted By: Martin&Rene
Date Posted: 09 November 2023 at 14:00
On my 341, I just use a removable cleat mounted on the Genoa tracks (pfeiffer?).

If you need it, I will try and find the details.


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Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout, normally based in Scotland


Posted By: Kox
Date Posted: 12 November 2023 at 16:33
Like this:  https://www.svb24.com/en/pfeiffer-midrail-cleat-for-20-x-3-mm-tracks.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.svb24.com/en/pfeiffer-midrail-cleat-for-20-x-3-mm-tracks.html  ?
Oh my!, that's clever! Albeit not quite as strong as the permanently mounted cleats.


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Hanse 315, Ella, Hull# 640


Posted By: Martin&Rene
Date Posted: 13 November 2023 at 20:23
Kox

I think the one I use is this larger one, with the end caps, so that I can switch it from one side to the other

https://www.accastillage-diffusion.co.uk/taquet-de-pont-pour-rail-de-genois-pfeiffer-p24883-1.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.accastillage-diffusion.co.uk/taquet-de-pont-pour-rail-de-genois-pfeiffer-p24883-1.html

(also available from svb?)

You may be right about its strength, (though I am not certain) but I use it when I am "parking" the boat.  I either use it just as a mid-line when we first come alongside a pontoon, or as a part of my "parking line" system when I am coming onto a finger pontoon.  See here

https://www.myhanse.com/finger-pontoon-mooring_topic12624_post103808.html?KW=pontoon+mooring#103808" rel="nofollow - https://www.myhanse.com/finger-pontoon-mooring_topic12624_post103808.html?KW=pontoon+mooring#103808

As seen in the photo, once alongside, I run bow and stern springs from the ends of the boat onto a mid cleat on the pontoon, and this makes it easy to adjust the boat's position.


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Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout, normally based in Scotland



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