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Topic: Configuring my 385
Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Subject: Configuring my 385
Date Posted: 21 September 2013 at 04:43
 
 
Here is our 'sun shade', a pole binimi zipped to the back of our spray hood and clipped to the back stay.  We have clear covers on the hood to stop the sand destroying them, but they also provide more shade.  It was 43 degrees in this picture, and 60 % humidity.
 
 
 
 
Here is one of our grab rails.  I saw them first on another 385 in the Hmble and they look as though they should be there.  I would have liked them on the delivery journey from Germany whan it got a bit windy.
 
 
Here is my uprated back stay adjuster.  We have more purchace and the strop gets the cleat far enough from the seat.  I found the original was too close to get the line out of the cleat when under load.  Also the line is long enough to reach the main winch, if I need the additional grunt.
 
You can also see my solid 'life lines' above the bathing platform.  The clip to the same place as the original lines, and privide a better back rest and a more secure feeling.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine



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Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 21 September 2013 at 05:06






This is our 'tent' It also zips to the spray hood and is clipped and strapped to the coamings and transom.

The idea is to keep the sand out of the cockpit, winches, wheels and so on. It has two boom lifts to give enough height to sit under it (when we move the boat back to the med/north sea) and it has 6 clears with roll up covers.


You can just see the Elvestrom jib sock. We didn't bother with UV strips because they dont last long here.


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Wayne's World
Date Posted: 21 September 2013 at 06:45
Mark & Catherine,
 
I notice from your photos that your marina seems to have lots of vacant berths or are a lot of the boats out being used? Are costs to live and berth your boat in Dubai expensive?


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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Mediterranean but heading across the Atlantic early 2020


Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 21 September 2013 at 07:26
Hi Mark,
do you have the FCL performance sails ?  Your lazy jack and the mast hood seem to fit perfectly!
Congratulations, the boat looks great
 
Frank


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Frank


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 21 September 2013 at 10:30
Hi Wayne, 
 
Many boats had moved for a couple of months because the power went off on this section, back on last week just as we arrived.  As people come back from their summer holidays the boats will move back.
 
Cost is about 5 K GBP or 7.5K AUD per year including water electricity and free ice, which I think is a litle expensive but could be a lot worse.
 
Hi Frank, Yes I have FCL sails.  Ill have a look on the bag to see if it is a Hanse one or not.  I cant remember whether it was UK sourced and shipped to teh yard or whether it came from the yard.
 
Mark


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 21 September 2013 at 11:06
Here are a couple of photos of our bobstay
 
 
 
and one of the elvestrom sock
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Wayne's World
Date Posted: 21 September 2013 at 11:45
Mark & Catherine,
 
Your bobstay looks substantial. Who fitted this for you- your dealer? I gather from your previous posts your dealer was Inspiration Marine? Do you remember what was the cost of your bobstay. We want to fit a bobstay to our boat when we pick it up mid next year.


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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Mediterranean but heading across the Atlantic early 2020


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 21 September 2013 at 16:38
Hi Wayne,
 
yes you are right, my dealer was Inspiration Marine - can't recommend them enough thay have been great, even through the difficult bits.  They use a local (to them) firm run by a couple of russians for all their stainless work, like the grab handles and the rear rails.  The bobstay is HUGE, the eyes were welded on in Hamble point marina, the rest came in a box and I fitted it myself the other day.  Total cost 264 pound so just less than 400 dollars.
 
 
And Frank,
 
I looked at the sail bag, and ithas a wendle and ross sticker, which is the chandlery next to the Hanse yard.  I dont know if all Hanse bags are made by them, but I suppose its reasonable guess since they are next door.
 
MArk


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: simonpickard
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 02:47
Great photos Mark! She's a beauty!

Have you taken any of the inside you can show?

Really like the handhelds in front of the wheels. You're totally right they look like they've been fitted as standard.

All the best,
Simon


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 03:35
Hi Simon,
 
I finally tidied up inside yesterday, there were boxes and packing material everywhere as we reassembled everything.  I'll go and get some photos tonight now we are 'Bristol fashion'.  


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: simonpickard
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 03:38
Congratulations Mark! Glad to hear she got there safely.

Look forward to seeing some more pic's when you have time.
One question.. What's was your reason for the bobstay? (sorry if that's a very basic question).

Regards,
Simon


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 03:44
For those working through the air con/ no air con debate here are my thoughts after only 4 days.
 
It is HOT here (above 40 degrees in th eday at the moment).  This is not the problem.  The humidity is killing us, we lose a lot of fluid everyday and we are drinking about 5 litres of bottled water trying to put the boat back together.  Everything slipps in our hands which are wringing wet.  Inside the boat we measured 38 degrees yesterday. 
 
We need to be able to dehumidify the air to avoid the boat growing damp.  I knew this and many of the boats here have small dehumidifiers left on the gally top discharging straight into the sink (meaning they leave the sea cock on that sink open), and I kntended to do the same.  However we went and bought a small portable A/C unit yesterday, one of those that uses a flexible hose for the heat exhaust.  IT cost less than 300 dollars and its great, half an hour and I could work in the cabin.
 
THis unit has a 0.7 rating and I think it is big enough to cool the whole boat if it was on for a while.  Of course its a drag getting it on and off the boat when you sail and return to your berth.  We will try it for a while and decide if we want to fit a perminant solution.
 


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 03:50
No problem Simon, we ordered a furlstrom with the boat cut flat like a code 0, and we also have a fuller asymmetric spinaker which I have also had transferred from a snuffer to a top down furler, so I have two flying sails that will be flown from the front of the bow roller.  Eventually this load witll pull up the front of the bow roller and you will find other threads compaining about this and leaky anchor lockers.
 
Now we can debate why Hanse put the ring on the end of the roller if its not strong enough!  or we can take the belt and braces approach.
 
So for 250 quid we decided to avoid any problem and get the bow roller a strong bob stay, all I have to do is make sure it is tight and I can sail without worrying if the load is too high for the original fitting.
 
M


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Wayne's World
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 09:48
Simon & Mark,
 
I think the attachment ring on the fwd end of the bow sprit is designed for a gennecker not for sails such as a code 0 or furlstrom. As these sails are on furlers they exert a lot of force on the bow sprit. The furler is under tension and this force is trying to pull the bow sprit up and towards the mast, particularly when you add tension when the mast is raked aft. Genneckers and similar sails do not load the bow sprit with the same amount of force and the force exerted is pulling the bow sprit fwd and up. So the standard arrangement offered by Hanse is not suitable for or designed to fly a code 0 or similar sails. By adding a bobstay the bow sprit is reinforced.
 
Aircond - we would not be without it unless you are only day sailing or serious about racing and don't want the extra weight on board. I gather Dubai is like here in Cairns - houses are airconditioned as are most cars and shopping centres etc etc so why have a boat without aircond?   


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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Mediterranean but heading across the Atlantic early 2020


Posted By: simonpickard
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 10:37
"so why have a boat without aircond?"

If you're away from shore power how would you run it?


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 10:44
You might be right there wayne, but they still managed to sell me the code 0 without the bob stay which added later.

Two reasons why no aircon

1 race 
2 will move the boat back to europe when my contract is finished here

So it was always the idea to put portable on when moored




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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Wayne's World
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 10:51
Simon,
 
As we will be living aboard for long periods we need an generator anyway so being able to use the aircond in cooling or heating mode whilst away from a marina will not be a problem. We have also added an extra fuel tank so we can stay away from marinas. 


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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Mediterranean but heading across the Atlantic early 2020


Posted By: Persse
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 11:09
Excellent modifications to your 385. I was impressed with the grab rails. As far as aircon goes - I have had a lot of different opinions. I went with it as we will end up in marinas at Cairns and Darwin and retrofitting did not appeal.
The portable option would be equally as valid, at sea it will open hatches only.


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 11:12
Although I have a friend who has aircon fitted and takes one of those suitcase generators on long trips so he can run it away from the dock.  No good in a blow though.
 
The good news is that we all like Hanse's even though we use them for different things.
 
M


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: simonpickard
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 11:45
Suitcase generator, never thought of that...

Does anyone have any links to these portable aircon / heater units + suitcase generators?

I guess the great thing about going down that road is you just get them out when they are needed, they store them away again when not.


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 22 September 2013 at 15:50
best ones are the little Hondas.  Some of the cheaper ones dont produce a very good sign wave output.

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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 30 September 2013 at 07:18
Here are the first inside photos
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 25 January 2014 at 18:41
 
just fitted my new mainsheet bridle, see Hanses in Dubai for more info. 


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: Ilkhanse
Date Posted: 30 January 2014 at 00:48
Mark, how are the grab rails mounted to the steering pedestals? I can see they are screwed in, but were they tapped in or somehow through bolted? If they are tapped, are the screws aluminum or steel? I asked Phil about having some rails shipped over here, but I think it will be too expensive, so I am looking at having them made locally. Your boat looks great by the way!


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 30 January 2014 at 02:03

Hi, thanks for the compliment.  As far as i can recall, they are screws not bolts, and are stainless not aluminium.  If I remember I will have a closer look tomorrow when we race her again.

They are certainly quite strong and help with moving around especially in a bit of a sea.
 
Mark
 


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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: monty7442
Date Posted: 09 June 2016 at 11:16
Hi Mark,
 
I know this is an old thread but I'm thinking of ordering the wheel grab rails you have for our 345 and thought I'd ask you about them first.
 
Do they get in the way much? Can you pass them easily? I sometimes stretch out with my feet though the wheel (not when sailing!) and wondered if it may end up a little less comfy with them.
 
Did you fit them yourself and if so is it just a question of drilling into the floor and self tapping the wheel support?
 
Any thoughts would be welcome before I shell out the 650 + VAT!
 
Overall I think it would be a sensible addition as there's not much to grab other than the wheel when the breeze is up
 
Cheers,
 


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Monty


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 09 June 2016 at 14:02
Hi Monty, we wouldn't be without them, in a big sea we use them a lot, one hand on the wheel, one on the top of the handles. I still stick my feet through them and the wheel when lying on deck. We had them fitted by Inspiration Marine as part of the purchase but I know others have retrofitted them.

I don't know what we would hang onto if they weren't there, so I'd say yes get some.

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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: monty7442
Date Posted: 09 June 2016 at 14:43
Hi Mark,
That's all pretty much as I suspected but its still useful to hear it from someone that has them.
Thanks.
 
By the way are you permanently live on board? Where are you heading to this year?
 
 
Cheers,
 
 


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Monty


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 10 June 2016 at 14:57
Hi Monty, we live aboard for 3 month in spring and 3 in autumn this year, currently in Greek Cyclades, heading back to bodrum for summer when she gets lifted, back out in September, not sure where we will go then yet.

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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine


Posted By: monty7442
Date Posted: 10 June 2016 at 15:20
Sounds NiceSmile 

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Monty


Posted By: Fuego
Date Posted: 22 August 2018 at 21:32
Hi!

Can I ask what the effect of the bridle is. Does it men it easier the get the boom to center when sailing upwind?

Best Regards Fuego


Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 08:30
Hi Fuego,
 
yes can can better center the boom as the system gets "stiffer". After my mod I was able to point 2-3 degrees higher to windward. Here is my solution:


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Frank


Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 13 September 2018 at 08:43
Also the boom isnt pulled down so much which prevents the back of the main hooking to windward, so better sail shape and as stated above 2 - 3 degrees better pointing.

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385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine



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