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Topic: Engine parts
Posted By: bigcat
Subject: Engine parts
Date Posted: 01 March 2016 at 20:01
Does anyone have part numbers for the Volvo Penta filters on the H345 handy?
I need part numbers for the oil and fuel filter and impeller for annual engine service.
Also, where is the primary fuel filter located? I know the fuel tanks are under the starboard rear berth. Is the primary filter under a floor board in that berth? What's the primary fuel filter part number?

Thanks much!



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Posted By: Brufan
Date Posted: 01 March 2016 at 21:28
for a Volvo D1-30 (may be D1-20 uses the same parts but not sure) :
oil filter 3840525 (or equivalent FRAM PH4990B)
fuel filter 861477-8 (or equivalent MANN WK811-86)
primary fuel filter (Delphi - Volvo but can vary) 3581078 (on my H355 it is located next to fuel tank under aft bed.  Very tight fit & access)
impeller 22222936

hope this helps


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Bruno

hanse 355 - 57

S/Y Spicy Ginger

White hull, 2 cabins, Volvo D1-30, Selden rig, removable mainsheet track system (modifications done now), Simrad-Jefa autopilot.


Posted By: GrainDeSel
Date Posted: 01 March 2016 at 21:35
Hi
Look at www.dbmoteur.fr. It is very helpfull
Regards
Jean marie

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Best regards
Jean-Marie
H385#139 june 2012


Posted By: bigcat
Date Posted: 04 March 2016 at 16:49
Thanks all for the replies. I also found this:

Impeller kit: 22222936            
Fuel filter (primary): 861014    
Fuel filter (secondary): 861477 
Oil filter: 3840525                   

The primary fuel filter is hard to find. Only place I could find it is on ebay.
There must be replacement filters, like Sierra (sold at west marine), but it wasn't clear to me which model.

So for now I'll go with the one on ebay. If someone has a part number that is readily available in the US, please let me know. Thanks!



Posted By: Navegador
Date Posted: 06 March 2016 at 20:21
to find correct volvo penta parts numbers, see;
http://www.marinepartseurope.com" rel="nofollow - www.marinepartseurope.com

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Navegador H355 D1-30


Posted By: Navegador
Date Posted: 06 March 2016 at 20:36
improved primary fuel filter, changed standard Hanse (Delphi) in to Separ SWK2000/5U with remote control.
 


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Navegador H355 D1-30


Posted By: SausalitoDave
Date Posted: 06 March 2016 at 21:33
Navegador:  Nice upgrade,may consider the same.  How did you configure the remote control?

Dave


Posted By: echoofwight
Date Posted: 07 March 2016 at 12:52
Keypart Europe is a good supplier for all Volvo service parts. (Keypart.com) they are very helpful if you call and have a good website

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Steve. Hanse 341 Echo of Wight, . Deep draft and rudder, white hull, Single aft cabin. Raymarine instruments. Raymarine radar. Garmin AIS. Wheel Steering,   Portsmouth.


Posted By: Navegador
Date Posted: 07 March 2016 at 17:58
due the Separ filter is located under the rear bed floor I made a mechanical remote (by a rod) control.
control rod is accesseble from Sb or PS engine hatch.


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Navegador H355 D1-30


Posted By: bigcat
Date Posted: 02 November 2020 at 05:28
About a year and a half ago our Volvo diesel engine was replaced because Volvo had an exhaust recall.
Now I'm trying to do my first service on the engine and I cannot locate the primary fuel filter (water separator). I traced the fuel lines from the tank under the starboard aft berth to the engine. Nothing.

We had our previous engine serviced professionally and they never mentioned the lack of a primary filter.

Was it never there? Is it possible it was removed during the engine replacement?


Posted By: pdc78
Date Posted: 02 November 2020 at 06:29
Should be under the floor in the Port Aft Cabin / Port Aft Storage Locker - depending on your configuration.  It is against the central fore-aft bulkhead behind the engine next to the calorifier. Mine does not have a transparent separator bulb (some fire hazard rule) - but an alloy one, and uses a Volvo proprietary version of the widely used Lucas CAV 296 pre-filter cartridge.  Good luck,  Paul

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H345 #269


Posted By: bigcat
Date Posted: 02 November 2020 at 06:56
On the port side we have the bathroom with separate shower (eg no berth).
Behind that is the large storage locker under the cockpit. Is it supposed to be in that area?


Posted By: pdc78
Date Posted: 02 November 2020 at 07:03
Yes.  I have the same configuration.  Lift the floor in the locker and you will find the calorifier (boiler) and diesel pre-filter.  

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H345 #269


Posted By: Magicol
Date Posted: 02 November 2020 at 21:27
The easiest access is through the hatch from the heads. Lift the floor section that gives access to the water heater.



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Hanse 345 #237 based on the Clyde


Posted By: bigcat
Date Posted: 03 November 2020 at 06:08
Thanks everyone, I will go and find it this weekend!
Silly that I only checked on the starboard side where the fuel tank is...
Hopefully I don't have to clean out the locker to get to it...:)


Posted By: bigcat
Date Posted: 08 November 2020 at 01:21
I found the primary filter. What I do not yet understand is that there are 2 fuel lines from the diesel tank, one goes straight to the engine, the other feeds through the primary filter.

With the line that goes straight to the engine, doesn't that defeat the purpose of the primary filter?

Also, people are advising to replace this primary filter with one that has a clear glass, should I consider that ?
Is 861014 the part number for the factory installed primary filter  (10 micron) ?



Posted By: bigcat
Date Posted: 08 November 2020 at 01:23
It appears the factor installed filter is a Wix 33166.


Posted By: pdc78
Date Posted: 08 November 2020 at 08:30
The Wix is an equivalent to the 'universal' DELPHI HDF296 which is used for marine and commercial vehicles across the world.  Volvo install their own branded version as OEM, but I believe that the WIX, AC Delco, Mann, Bosch equivalents are all suitable substitutes and will almost certainly be a lot cheaper.

There will not be a bypass to the pre-filter.  You should recheck your fuel line tracing.  There will eventually be a return line to the fuel tank for unused fuel to cycle back to the tank.  This fuel will have passed through the fuel pre-filter first and serves to clean ("polish") the fuel while your engine is running.

A glass bowl can be fitted to the pre-filter, though it may be best to replace the whole filter body and bowl as a matching set (with a Lucas CAV / Delphi equivalent).  Be careful though, as I believe the often found plastic bowl is not approved for the location which is not physically isolated from the engine bay and is considered to be a fire hazard.  You may decided that the filters are so cheap that it is simply easier to routinely replace the pre-filter (at least annually) and to check for dirty / wet fuel at that time - unless you have a history of fuel / fuel tank problems.

Regards,  Paul


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H345 #269


Posted By: Martin&Rene
Date Posted: 08 November 2020 at 21:40
The set up on my yacht, which I think is quite common, is that the feed to the engine from the fuel tank will have a valve near the fuel tank.  As the last post has said, there will then be a return line from the engine as the flow rate of the high pressure pump is much higher than what is actually needed by the engine.  It varies from engine to engine, but some comments are that over 50% of the fuel is recycled back to the tank.

The other valve outlet from the fuel tank is then the diesel heater.


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Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout & shallow keel, normally based in Scotland


Posted By: bigcat
Date Posted: 09 November 2020 at 05:11
Thanks Paul and Martin/Rene.
 
So if I understand correctly, fuel goes directly from the fuel tank to the engine (probably through the secondary fuel filter?) and the return line goes through the primary filter before the fuel is returned to the engine ?

Thanks, Koen



Posted By: pdc78
Date Posted: 09 November 2020 at 08:08
Absolutely not.  Tank -> electric pump -> pre-filter -> engine fuel pump  / engine fuel filter -> injectors -> return feed to tank.

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H345 #269



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