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Topic: Access to hidden voids
Posted By: Lykke
Subject: Access to hidden voids
Date Posted: 02 April 2016 at 23:30
Hi, I am the new owner of hull #8 from 2007. The boat is well held and mostly in original condition. But as a previous wood boat owner, there are two issues I might be a bit too hysterical concerned about. . . These are protection of endgrain of plywood that I find missing several places and a lot of inaccessible hidden voids that I would like to get easy access to.

What are the experiences from other boats here?
Is there reason to be concerned?

I have just cut a large inspection hole in the aft bulkhead to be able to inspect the stearing arrangement. I would appreciate any tip about where it is wise to have additional inspection hatches or openings. Special if any has made nice cutouts in the floor where there are no access and the floor plywood cannot be dismantled because of walls on top of it.

There are many places that now only can be checked with a tiny inspection camera, but I would like to get a hand in and also have the opportunity to use the places for storage.

Regards, Paal Fredrik.



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Posted By: seileren1
Date Posted: 03 April 2016 at 20:37
Hi Lykke,

Just to confirm your observation, there are a number of unused hidden space in all Hanse modells. These can be found by making inspection hatches. Just make sure you do not cut into any vital parts. There are a few older postings here that will give you some ideas about extra hatches and opening up the the floor. About the end wood, this has not been a problem on my previous Hanse or the Hanse that I own today.

Cheers


Posted By: Idelfix
Date Posted: 04 April 2016 at 19:30

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Posted By: Idelfix
Date Posted: 04 April 2016 at 19:38
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Posted By: iemand
Date Posted: 04 April 2016 at 20:23
Hello, by interesting link. You changed your compressor to water cooling without changing the compressor? How is the result? How much did that cost?


BR Thomas



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Posted By: Idelfix
Date Posted: 07 April 2016 at 19:49
Hi i inställd this
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Posted By: iemand
Date Posted: 07 April 2016 at 20:49
ok so you installed a complete new unit....

That is quite expensive!


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Posted By: Lykke
Date Posted: 08 April 2016 at 21:35
Thank you Idelfix, I have already had good use of your Dropbox.
 
This is my first hole cut in the new boat.... size made to fit a plastic hatch. Not big enough to get my head in, but was able to check stearing arrangement by hand and a pocket camera.
Wondering why there have not been an easier access to these vital parts from factory. Know they should be maintenance free, but .....
 


Posted By: Lykke
Date Posted: 05 January 2018 at 16:19
Cutting my way through the boat....
 
These are parts of what I did take out of the boat last Winter:
 
 
 
There are a lot of voids that can be turned into useful storage space around. I am special happy With this new shoe storage in the fore cabin:
 
 
I did originally planned to make some drawers here, but the inner lining towards the hull was so nice here so that I just decided to keep the openings uncovered.
 
 
Other places that are easy to create access to are:
 
Behind seats in saloon:
 
 
 
 
Hope this can give some inspiration to others....
 
Have not yet decided where to continue cutting this winter, but the floor in the aft cabins is a good candidate...
 


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Posted By: Lykke
Date Posted: 12 May 2021 at 21:55
This winter I was brave enough to cut hole in the floors at the aft cabin.
To my surprise, these void have no drainage. Before I bought the boat, the previous owner had a leakage in the exhaust cooling water and there were still left water here more than 5 years since I bought the boat.





I am very impressed by the quality of the plywood Hanse has used in the bulkhead here. The lower part of the bulkhead has been standing in water for many years and it was just a bit black and with some few pieces of mold on it. I would have expected it would be completely disintegrated after so many years dipped in water. This is port side that was almost dried up. Starboard side had several cm of water reaching above the bottom of the bulkhead.



Here are the lower pieces of the bulkheads after I cut them out to get access to the whole void. (The worst corner of the starboard piece was already burned at the time the picture was taken).


 
After cleaning and making a lid, this place looks like a perfect location for a wine-cellar.  Here at starboard side:




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Posted By: Alain & Anne
Date Posted: 15 May 2021 at 21:01


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Posted By: Lykke
Date Posted: 21 May 2021 at 09:52
Just found out that my new wine cellar on port side was not so suited for storage of bag-in box wine.
Kids showering and forgetting to turn on the discharge pump, resulted in this void being filled with water again...  Confused

But the one on starboard side is still dry and well suited.

On this side, I also cut some additional access holes towards the diesel tank. Mostly to get better access to the filter and water separator. I felt it was almost impossible to service these with only access from the top.






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Lykke, Hanse 430e, #8 from 2007


Posted By: Tiku
Date Posted: 23 November 2021 at 09:52
I have the same plan to use some of the void spaces. I even have the same colour interior and this raises the question. 

How did you colormatch the wood? You neede to create some new pieces and I have been thinking about where to get the right colour and wood. 


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Posted By: Lykke
Date Posted: 14 December 2021 at 16:55

I just used standard mahogany stain left over from my other boat. It is far from perfect match, but close enough for my taste.



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Lykke, Hanse 430e, #8 from 2007


Posted By: Tiku
Date Posted: 20 December 2021 at 11:39
Thanks! 

I know both products quite well. I used to have a Strorebro from 1969 with lots of mahogany that needed some work. 

So mix & match is the best way to go. 

Thx. 


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