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On my 400e I have an electric winch to Stbd rear. So I run the main halyard to that. That allows me to hoist while at the helm. Main sheet goes to Port rear. Vang to Stbd cabin top (unless needed for a reef). Outhaul to Port cabin top (again unless needed for a reef etc). That leaves Genoa sheets to forward winches or if using the STJ then that goes to Stbd. Traveller I have a on long lengths that can be pulled back to the helm in principle. In reality, if needed in a hurry Iíll often ease the main a little then sort the traveller when thereís a moment to go forward of the wheel. I can tack up rivers with that setup even with the Genoa on. With the STJ on itís almost too easy :) Suitable use of autopilot or wheel brake lets me adjust outhaul, Cunningham or vang tension. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Helios_ri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2022 at 18:08
Pekka,

Could you post more detailed pictures? First pic looks to be standard set up, with jib sheet going up the mast.

I would like to see how you have led the jib sheets through the block on the self tacker stand and then back alongside. can you post a closer pic?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PekkaL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2022 at 21:03
The sheet comes from the mast first to block at the base of the mast, then to through a block at the self tacker stand (pictured), then through barber hauler block (pictured) and finally through genoa block to either of the rear winches.

The fastening for barber hauler block is noin standard in H371. I guess the block could be attached to the shrouds base instead?







Edited by PekkaL - 27 May 2022 at 21:09
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Sounds reasonable. The eyelet for mine is about the same. Will rig it and get used to it. 

Appreciate the info and advice! Great resource this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Issywa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2023 at 03:03
Helios - I'm considering a change to my main sheet rigging and was wondering if you added any reinforcement to the deck to provide extra support for the traveller? 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Helios_ri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2023 at 03:39
Hi Issywa,


and I can send more if desired. The system was designed to put the bulk of the load back onto the same pedestals that the factory blocks were mounted to. These two pedestals carry the bulk of the load, as before. I also built brackets on the end of the traveler bar; these are also bolted in underneath the deck using large washers. There was not an easy way to get backing plates in there. To access this area from below, I had to cut holes in the glass beam underneath and after I was done I filled, faired and painted it. You cannot tell that it was opened up. The traveler bar has worked great, no issues. I did upgrade to the next larger Antal car.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2023 at 06:19
On my 418 a rigger told me the particular type of dyneema Hanse had used was quite old technology so he recommended replacing it, but suggested swapping the cam over for a ceramic one first as that would be cheaper. I did that and have not had a problem with halliard slip since 
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H - if you have any, pics of the work on the glass beam would be great.


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Hi all,
I am not very keen of the German sheet layout for single or shorthanded crew! Most of the time, il not all the time the autopilot is doing the job and let you trimming the sails up to you.
The Hanse 430 original layout makes the trimming of the two sails from the companion way very easy.
As soon you are sailing overnight, two crew sailing becomes single handed sailing: you don't call your mate to reef or reduce your sails, and the autopilot remote control help to steer.
Regarding the German sheet layout on a 430, I am wondering how one could steer and tune the sheet properly at the same time? Where is the third hand? 
On my opinion and from my own experience, the German sheet system is very well designed for a full crew where you have a guy to steer and a full crew to trim.
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