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Mark_J1 ![]() Commadore ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 March 2013 Location: Dover&Medway UK Status: Offline Points: 495 |
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On my 400e I have an electric winch to Stbd rear. So I run the main halyard to that. That allows me to hoist while at the helm. Main sheet goes to Port rear. Vang to Stbd cabin top (unless needed for a reef). Outhaul to Port cabin top (again unless needed for a reef etc). That leaves Genoa sheets to forward winches or if using the STJ then that goes to Stbd. Traveller I have a on long lengths that can be pulled back to the helm in principle. In reality, if needed in a hurry I’ll often ease the main a little then sort the traveller when there’s a moment to go forward of the wheel. I can tack up rivers with that setup even with the Genoa on. With the STJ on it’s almost too easy :) Suitable use of autopilot or wheel brake lets me adjust outhaul, Cunningham or vang tension.
Mark
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Hanse 400e "Grey Goose" Hull #31
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Helios_ri ![]() Lieutenant ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2019 Location: newport, ri Status: Offline Points: 46 |
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Pekka, Could you post more detailed pictures? First pic looks to be standard set up, with jib sheet going up the mast. I would like to see how you have led the jib sheets through the block on the self tacker stand and then back alongside. can you post a closer pic?
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PekkaL ![]() Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 January 2005 Location: Finland Status: Online Points: 82 |
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The sheet comes from the mast first to block at the base of the mast, then to through a block at the self tacker stand (pictured), then through barber hauler block (pictured) and finally through genoa block to either of the rear winches.
The fastening for barber hauler block is noin standard in H371. I guess the block could be attached to the shrouds base instead? ![]() Edited by PekkaL - 27 May 2022 at 21:09 |
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Pekka Leppanen, "Vedette"
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rickwheatley ![]() Lieutenant ![]() Joined: 02 October 2021 Location: Oslo, Norway Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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Sounds reasonable. The eyelet for mine is about the same. Will rig it and get used to it.
Appreciate the info and advice! Great resource this.
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Issywa ![]() Lieutenant ![]() Joined: 13 April 2022 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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Helios - I'm considering a change to my main sheet rigging and was wondering if you added any reinforcement to the deck to provide extra support for the traveller?
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Helios_ri ![]() Lieutenant ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2019 Location: newport, ri Status: Offline Points: 46 |
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Hi Issywa, There is a pic here: https://www.myhanse.com/hanse-43-traveler-system_topic11502.html and I can send more if desired. The system was designed to put the bulk of the load back onto the same pedestals that the factory blocks were mounted to. These two pedestals carry the bulk of the load, as before. I also built brackets on the end of the traveler bar; these are also bolted in underneath the deck using large washers. There was not an easy way to get backing plates in there. To access this area from below, I had to cut holes in the glass beam underneath and after I was done I filled, faired and painted it. You cannot tell that it was opened up. The traveler bar has worked great, no issues. I did upgrade to the next larger Antal car.
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Matt1 ![]() Rear Admiral ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 March 2019 Location: Hamble, UK Status: Offline Points: 642 |
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On my 418 a rigger told me the particular type of dyneema Hanse had used was quite old technology so he recommended replacing it, but suggested swapping the cam over for a ceramic one first as that would be cheaper. I did that and have not had a problem with halliard slip since
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Hanse 418 #64 EmBer. Hamble, UK
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Issywa ![]() Lieutenant ![]() Joined: 13 April 2022 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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H - if you have any, pics of the work on the glass beam would be great.
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Alain & Anne ![]() Rear Admiral ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 December 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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Hi all,
I am not very keen of the German sheet layout for single or shorthanded crew! Most of the time, il not all the time the autopilot is doing the job and let you trimming the sails up to you. The Hanse 430 original layout makes the trimming of the two sails from the companion way very easy. As soon you are sailing overnight, two crew sailing becomes single handed sailing: you don't call your mate to reef or reduce your sails, and the autopilot remote control help to steer. Regarding the German sheet layout on a 430, I am wondering how one could steer and tune the sheet properly at the same time? Where is the third hand? On my opinion and from my own experience, the German sheet system is very well designed for a full crew where you have a guy to steer and a full crew to trim.
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